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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4157091" data-attributes="member: 2067">A game needs 100% of the rules to cover the things you are expected to do with the game.The things you are expected to do a lot need detailed rules you can fiddle with and change up so they don't get stale.The things you are not expected to do a lot need broad rules you can use when needed easily, and ignore when not needed easily.3e D&amp;D had a different goal than 4e D&amp;D in this respect. It expected you to do a lot of stuff outside of the box in your own world. Since it was coming from 2e, an edition of prolific settings and vague homebrew and a very limited &quot;box,&quot; that was understandable. 3e's approach was thus more of a toolkit approach on how to make your own version of D&amp;D. Heck, in a lot of ways, the whole OGL/SRD/3rd party movement was based in this principle: take D&amp;D, make it your own, and go sell it on the streets!4e D&amp;D takes a few big steps back from that toolkit approach, to a more &quot;Play like this!&quot; approach. They won't abandon the toolkit entirely (because that'd be dumb), but they're spelling out exactly what they expect you to do, rather than mostly giving you a set you can assemble yourself.Dude, were we reading the same 3e? 'Cuz I pretty much always had my imagination sparked, even if it was just a simple sentence like &quot;Bodaks retain some vague memories of their past lives&quot; in the MM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4157091, member: 2067"] A game needs 100% of the rules to cover the things you are expected to do with the game. The things you are expected to do a lot need detailed rules you can fiddle with and change up so they don't get stale. The things you are not expected to do a lot need broad rules you can use when needed easily, and ignore when not needed easily. 3e D&D had a different goal than 4e D&D in this respect. It expected you to do a lot of stuff outside of the box in your own world. Since it was coming from 2e, an edition of prolific settings and vague homebrew and a very limited "box," that was understandable. 3e's approach was thus more of a toolkit approach on how to make your own version of D&D. Heck, in a lot of ways, the whole OGL/SRD/3rd party movement was based in this principle: take D&D, make it your own, and go sell it on the streets! 4e D&D takes a few big steps back from that toolkit approach, to a more "Play like this!" approach. They won't abandon the toolkit entirely (because that'd be dumb), but they're spelling out exactly what they expect you to do, rather than mostly giving you a set you can assemble yourself. Dude, were we reading the same 3e? 'Cuz I pretty much always had my imagination sparked, even if it was just a simple sentence like "Bodaks retain some vague memories of their past lives" in the MM. [/QUOTE]

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