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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 6139610" data-attributes="member: 25619"><p>Here, here!</p><p></p><p>I'd also like to say, it's not unrealistic for multiple countries to share the same currency (looking at Spanish pieces-of-eight) if it's a reliable currency and has a large share of the world's supply of the precious metal used. There's a reason so many countries have "dollar" or "peso" as their currency (both terms for the same Spanish coin used on 4 continents).</p><p></p><p>It's also not unrealistic for multiple medieval "countries" to speak the same language. Latin is obvious as the educated language of Europe until at least the 19th century, but there are also vernacular languages that were shared by multiple political entities -- Italy was dozens of rival city states and small countries often speaking the same dialects, and same goes for the Holy Roman Empire (later called Germany). Arabic was the main language from Morocco to Iraq in medieval times, and spoken by traders and adventurers as far as off as Malaysia.</p><p></p><p>So you don't need to feel inferior for allowing "Common" and not worrying about which country issued a coin. It's a modern construct of the nation-state era to think that language = nation, and nation with an army, currency, and flag = state.</p><p></p><p>More realistically medieval would be to have multiple languages extant within a kingdom, and the same languages occurring in neighboring countries. For example, circa 1400, and ignoring minor dialect differences:</p><p></p><p>-- England & Wales = English (vernacular, with heavy regional and class accents), French (aristocratic/trader/military officer vernacular), Welsh (regional vernacular language unrelated to English or French), Cornish (regional vernacular related to Welsh), Irish (subject people/enemy/trader vernacular), Scottish (subject people/enemy/trader vernacular), Latin (language of education, church, and government documents), Danish/Norwegian boksmal (trader vernacular), Dutch (trader vernacular), and Greek (secondary language of education and church).</p><p></p><p>-- France = French (vernacular of Ile-de-France region), Langue d'Oc (vernacular of the south), Breton (vernacular of Brittany), Arpitan (dialect of Burgundy), Alsatian German (vernacular of Alsace-Lorraine), Basque (regional vernacular), Catalan (regional vernacular), Dutch (trader/neighboring language), English (trader/neighbor/enemy language), Latin, and Greek.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 6139610, member: 25619"] Here, here! I'd also like to say, it's not unrealistic for multiple countries to share the same currency (looking at Spanish pieces-of-eight) if it's a reliable currency and has a large share of the world's supply of the precious metal used. There's a reason so many countries have "dollar" or "peso" as their currency (both terms for the same Spanish coin used on 4 continents). It's also not unrealistic for multiple medieval "countries" to speak the same language. Latin is obvious as the educated language of Europe until at least the 19th century, but there are also vernacular languages that were shared by multiple political entities -- Italy was dozens of rival city states and small countries often speaking the same dialects, and same goes for the Holy Roman Empire (later called Germany). Arabic was the main language from Morocco to Iraq in medieval times, and spoken by traders and adventurers as far as off as Malaysia. So you don't need to feel inferior for allowing "Common" and not worrying about which country issued a coin. It's a modern construct of the nation-state era to think that language = nation, and nation with an army, currency, and flag = state. More realistically medieval would be to have multiple languages extant within a kingdom, and the same languages occurring in neighboring countries. For example, circa 1400, and ignoring minor dialect differences: -- England & Wales = English (vernacular, with heavy regional and class accents), French (aristocratic/trader/military officer vernacular), Welsh (regional vernacular language unrelated to English or French), Cornish (regional vernacular related to Welsh), Irish (subject people/enemy/trader vernacular), Scottish (subject people/enemy/trader vernacular), Latin (language of education, church, and government documents), Danish/Norwegian boksmal (trader vernacular), Dutch (trader vernacular), and Greek (secondary language of education and church). -- France = French (vernacular of Ile-de-France region), Langue d'Oc (vernacular of the south), Breton (vernacular of Brittany), Arpitan (dialect of Burgundy), Alsatian German (vernacular of Alsace-Lorraine), Basque (regional vernacular), Catalan (regional vernacular), Dutch (trader/neighboring language), English (trader/neighbor/enemy language), Latin, and Greek. [/QUOTE]
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