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<blockquote data-quote="DNH" data-source="post: 4979761" data-attributes="member: 63615">(I will admit that this is not strictly 4e-specific, but that's the game we play atm.)As the DM for our 4e group, I have a slight problem with the sometimes meticulously considered and executed combat manoeuvres carried out by the players.&nbsp; We continuously get a volley of &quot;If you go there, then I ...&quot; - &quot;But I could use this if ...&quot; - &quot;Don't do that because I am going to ...&quot; and it winds me up most of the time.&nbsp; I have tried saying things like &quot;Guys, come on.&nbsp; It's only a six-second combat round; there's no time for such meticulous planning.&quot;&nbsp; I haven't tried this one but I could rule that their instructions to each other are perforce spoken aloud and so the foes will hear them and react accordingly.I am sort of in two (or more) minds about this.&nbsp; I understand that the PCs generally need some advantage and the ability to coordinate their efforts gives them this.&nbsp; I can also (largely) accept that the planning we see at the table does not necessarily translate to the battlefield (so a plan of actions discussed between the players may well become a shouted command from one character).&nbsp; Also, I am more of the narrativist school than the simulationist one, so I am not sure that clamping down on these instructions in the interests of verisimilitude is precisely what I am after.Still, I also want to speed my game along if I can.&nbsp; And I *do* think that my players overstep what is acceptable sometimes.What do you guys do?&nbsp; Any thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DNH, post: 4979761, member: 63615"] (I will admit that this is not strictly 4e-specific, but that's the game we play atm.) As the DM for our 4e group, I have a slight problem with the sometimes meticulously considered and executed combat manoeuvres carried out by the players. We continuously get a volley of "If you go there, then I ..." - "But I could use this if ..." - "Don't do that because I am going to ..." and it winds me up most of the time. I have tried saying things like "Guys, come on. It's only a six-second combat round; there's no time for such meticulous planning." I haven't tried this one but I could rule that their instructions to each other are perforce spoken aloud and so the foes will hear them and react accordingly. I am sort of in two (or more) minds about this. I understand that the PCs generally need some advantage and the ability to coordinate their efforts gives them this. I can also (largely) accept that the planning we see at the table does not necessarily translate to the battlefield (so a plan of actions discussed between the players may well become a shouted command from one character). Also, I am more of the narrativist school than the simulationist one, so I am not sure that clamping down on these instructions in the interests of verisimilitude is precisely what I am after. Still, I also want to speed my game along if I can. And I *do* think that my players overstep what is acceptable sometimes. What do you guys do? Any thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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