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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyDm" data-source="post: 6856492" data-attributes="member: 6788973">I didn't see his suggestion as bleak/dark/edgy. Just a logical conclusion drawn from a race as implausible and perfect as the elves. You can't have a race that is simultaneously: 1) in &quot;harmony&quot; with nature 2) perfectly beautiful and clean and above mortal concerns 3) possesses a vast amount of mineral wealth, finely worked goods, etc. 4) is a paragon of holier-than-thou moral virtue. These are not really compatible. For one thing, nature is incredibly hostile to any sort of civilized life. To achieve great works, you need to subjugate nature. You also need to be willing to get your hands dirty by mining, smelting, farming, etc. So you can have #3 and #4 at the expense of cleaving closely to #1 and #2, for example. Basically... The only way to have all of those things is for one or more of them to be a facade. His suggestion that #4 was the facade, which is in my opinion kinda clever and novel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MostlyDm, post: 6856492, member: 6788973"] I didn't see his suggestion as bleak/dark/edgy. Just a logical conclusion drawn from a race as implausible and perfect as the elves. You can't have a race that is simultaneously: 1) in "harmony" with nature 2) perfectly beautiful and clean and above mortal concerns 3) possesses a vast amount of mineral wealth, finely worked goods, etc. 4) is a paragon of holier-than-thou moral virtue. These are not really compatible. For one thing, nature is incredibly hostile to any sort of civilized life. To achieve great works, you need to subjugate nature. You also need to be willing to get your hands dirty by mining, smelting, farming, etc. So you can have #3 and #4 at the expense of cleaving closely to #1 and #2, for example. Basically... The only way to have all of those things is for one or more of them to be a facade. His suggestion that #4 was the facade, which is in my opinion kinda clever and novel. [/QUOTE]

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