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<blockquote data-quote="Morinth" data-source="post: 6856502" data-attributes="member: 6825499">I don't see why there is any disconnect. For what it's worth, the &quot;harmony with nature&quot; bit is really just a function of low population, large territory, and minimal infrastructure. &quot;Perfectly beautiful and clean and above mortal concerns&quot; is a perception, elves themselves probably don't regard themselves as such, or if they do, it's a byproduct of other races finding them thus. They are gracile and have refined features, that's just anatomy. As for their mineral wealth and such, they have very long lives in which to accumulate it, and many skills with which to trade for items they don't produce themselves. And as for paragons of holier-than-thou moral virtue, again, I think that's just personal perception. I think elven societies appear &quot;too perfect&quot; by some standards because every individual is highly trained and highly skilled. There are no elven &quot;commoners&quot; sitting around selling sausages to tourists. Every elf is either a ranger, a wizard, a cleric, a bard, a fighter, or an artisan of some sort. They invest in each individual, and they train their children rigorously. There is tremendous discipline instilled in them by the society as a whole. Those elf individuals who can't fit into this framework naturally leave elf society and become adventurers. But YMMV, if you just don't like elves I can't convince you that my perception of them has any merit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morinth, post: 6856502, member: 6825499"] I don't see why there is any disconnect. For what it's worth, the "harmony with nature" bit is really just a function of low population, large territory, and minimal infrastructure. "Perfectly beautiful and clean and above mortal concerns" is a perception, elves themselves probably don't regard themselves as such, or if they do, it's a byproduct of other races finding them thus. They are gracile and have refined features, that's just anatomy. As for their mineral wealth and such, they have very long lives in which to accumulate it, and many skills with which to trade for items they don't produce themselves. And as for paragons of holier-than-thou moral virtue, again, I think that's just personal perception. I think elven societies appear "too perfect" by some standards because every individual is highly trained and highly skilled. There are no elven "commoners" sitting around selling sausages to tourists. Every elf is either a ranger, a wizard, a cleric, a bard, a fighter, or an artisan of some sort. They invest in each individual, and they train their children rigorously. There is tremendous discipline instilled in them by the society as a whole. Those elf individuals who can't fit into this framework naturally leave elf society and become adventurers. But YMMV, if you just don't like elves I can't convince you that my perception of them has any merit. [/QUOTE]

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