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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6542974" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya.</p><p></p><p> I can't see what's wrong with the Ranger - Beast Master. As far as I can tell, it doesn't need any changes. Hmmm...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Your "Good" seems to imply you only see the animal as a data set of numbers to be used against other numbers in a game of numbers. This...is....odd? I'm not sure what words I'm looking for. I guess I'm sort of equating it to a father or mother looking at their 5 year old daughter and only being concerned with how she can be used to further their own wealth or career. "Hmmm...listen, Suzy, why don't you go over to that tiger in the tiger exhibit there and pull it's tail. It's ok...mommy and daddy will get lots of money for your death. We can always have another child". <-- ok...that was <em>REALLY</em> harsh! But I'm trying to make a point. I guess the point is...you should probably just stop reading this post right here if you have no problem with that scenario in terms of an RPG situation.</p><p></p><p>Right. So... With regards to your "Questionable" parts...</p><p></p><p><strong>It does nothing unless you use your action?</strong> Er, I suppose...if your DM is a complete and utter twit. This isn't a video game or a game with cold, hard, immutable rules. It's a roleplaying game. I'm pretty sure your animal companion would do whatever you would expect an animal to do...unless it was told to do something else. I would assume that the beast has some kind of affection for you, so I'm also pretty sure it would attack anyone attacking you. That said, if you were to command it to do something else, it would. But, lacking that command, any DM worth his salt would play the beast as a loyal, protective, and loving companion. Of course, if you just see it as a "bunch of numbers to be used in combat", and so does your DM...well, I guess that's on you.</p><p></p><p><strong> It has to be Medium or smaller? </strong> As per the rules, yup. *shrug* I really have no comment on it other than to say that this would fall squarely on the "Hey, I have an idea...can I [insert cool idea]?" players shoulders. And then firmly into the DM's court of "Yeah, I can see that. Sounds cool. Go for it!". But, again, if you just see everything as a "list of numbers to be exploited in a RAW manner, as best as possible, and totally for combat purposes"...well, again, I guess that's on you.</p><p></p><p><strong>Compared to the Hunter's abilities, this is no great shakes.</strong> Yeah, but...well... *sigh* Colossus Slayer can't help you detect hidden foes or fly overhead to try and detect ambushes. Hoard Breaker and Giant Killer won't help keep watch during the night, nor will they provide warmth when deep into the bowels of the earth, and no, they won't go running off to go and try and find help to bring back to your unconscious (and slowly dieing) body. Any other combat/damage-based Feat/Ability you toss out there is only 1/3 of the 5e pie. Animal companions have FAR more benefits than how much DPS they can bring to bare. I mean, I've seen so many fantasy movies where the "animal companion" is used for comic relief, or to pull on our heart strings, or to otherwise show all the stuff that being heroic and fighting evil is all about: saving or helping people and making their lives better. But, again...if it's all about the "combat numbers", ...yadda yadda yadda.</p><p></p><p><strong>Is this meant to be an animal friend or just some expendable beast?</strong> Really? I mean, seriously really really? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /> Uh, I'm going to go with 'the former' due to the fact that it's kinda the archtypes KEY ABILITY/FOCUS/SCHTICK. Would it make more sense for this archtype to suddenly loose it's key thing <em>forever</em>? That's like equating a barbarians Rage to a can of spinach. If the barbarian ever looses that can of spinach (re: it gets disintegrated, lost at sea, stolen by thieves, eaten by a grue, etc), the barbarian forever looses the ability to rage.</p><p></p><p>...Holy Curmudeonly Grognarditis Batman! I just reread what I wrote. I guess I'm definitely in a snarly mood or something. I'm gonna leave this here before I *really* say something I'll regret.</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 6542974, member: 45197"] Hiya. I can't see what's wrong with the Ranger - Beast Master. As far as I can tell, it doesn't need any changes. Hmmm... Your "Good" seems to imply you only see the animal as a data set of numbers to be used against other numbers in a game of numbers. This...is....odd? I'm not sure what words I'm looking for. I guess I'm sort of equating it to a father or mother looking at their 5 year old daughter and only being concerned with how she can be used to further their own wealth or career. "Hmmm...listen, Suzy, why don't you go over to that tiger in the tiger exhibit there and pull it's tail. It's ok...mommy and daddy will get lots of money for your death. We can always have another child". <-- ok...that was [I]REALLY[/I] harsh! But I'm trying to make a point. I guess the point is...you should probably just stop reading this post right here if you have no problem with that scenario in terms of an RPG situation. Right. So... With regards to your "Questionable" parts... [B]It does nothing unless you use your action?[/B] Er, I suppose...if your DM is a complete and utter twit. This isn't a video game or a game with cold, hard, immutable rules. It's a roleplaying game. I'm pretty sure your animal companion would do whatever you would expect an animal to do...unless it was told to do something else. I would assume that the beast has some kind of affection for you, so I'm also pretty sure it would attack anyone attacking you. That said, if you were to command it to do something else, it would. But, lacking that command, any DM worth his salt would play the beast as a loyal, protective, and loving companion. Of course, if you just see it as a "bunch of numbers to be used in combat", and so does your DM...well, I guess that's on you. [b] It has to be Medium or smaller? [/b] As per the rules, yup. *shrug* I really have no comment on it other than to say that this would fall squarely on the "Hey, I have an idea...can I [insert cool idea]?" players shoulders. And then firmly into the DM's court of "Yeah, I can see that. Sounds cool. Go for it!". But, again, if you just see everything as a "list of numbers to be exploited in a RAW manner, as best as possible, and totally for combat purposes"...well, again, I guess that's on you. [B]Compared to the Hunter's abilities, this is no great shakes.[/B] Yeah, but...well... *sigh* Colossus Slayer can't help you detect hidden foes or fly overhead to try and detect ambushes. Hoard Breaker and Giant Killer won't help keep watch during the night, nor will they provide warmth when deep into the bowels of the earth, and no, they won't go running off to go and try and find help to bring back to your unconscious (and slowly dieing) body. Any other combat/damage-based Feat/Ability you toss out there is only 1/3 of the 5e pie. Animal companions have FAR more benefits than how much DPS they can bring to bare. I mean, I've seen so many fantasy movies where the "animal companion" is used for comic relief, or to pull on our heart strings, or to otherwise show all the stuff that being heroic and fighting evil is all about: saving or helping people and making their lives better. But, again...if it's all about the "combat numbers", ...yadda yadda yadda. [B]Is this meant to be an animal friend or just some expendable beast?[/B] Really? I mean, seriously really really? o_O Uh, I'm going to go with 'the former' due to the fact that it's kinda the archtypes KEY ABILITY/FOCUS/SCHTICK. Would it make more sense for this archtype to suddenly loose it's key thing [I]forever[/I]? That's like equating a barbarians Rage to a can of spinach. If the barbarian ever looses that can of spinach (re: it gets disintegrated, lost at sea, stolen by thieves, eaten by a grue, etc), the barbarian forever looses the ability to rage. ...Holy Curmudeonly Grognarditis Batman! I just reread what I wrote. I guess I'm definitely in a snarly mood or something. I'm gonna leave this here before I *really* say something I'll regret. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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