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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5214987" data-attributes="member: 87792">Indeed.  As a player, if you're going to <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> around with my PC's family like that, talk it over with me first.  (And this goes double if you're going to insert things I've done into my backstory - not to rant about the worst Storyteller I've had ever (seriously, three DM PCs, one for each party member?)  And triple if I know how my character would turn dark and that wasn't it - he was far too arrogant to want to play second fiddle to demons.) Kidnapping or killing family is OK (if annoying) - that doesn't take reevaluating the PC's entire history.  If the mother was an extremely powerful undead spellcaster, that means that every single interaction someone had with his (or her) own mother needs to be mentally re-written. And given the influence a mother has, and the influence of a lich, almost every other interaction the PC had before he (or she) left home needs to be reevaluated or rewritten.  There's a difference between exploiting PC backstories and re-writing them.  Turning ordinary mother into evil undead spellcaster involves re-writing.  (Turning sister into aggressive rival would be exploiting).  I always put plot hooks (or plot-loops (to grab certain types of hook the DM might want to use)) into my background.  But that's not what the lich-mother was.  In this case, it was the DM performing a surgical operation to implant a hook into the PC where none existed.</blockquote>

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