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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 5216314" data-attributes="member: 2205">Dude, really?  You make up rules for how characters gain XP and how they advance and how to become a lich, and you fall back on that as your retort?  There is nothing that makes this character's mother unable to become a lich other than your own assumptions that you bring to the table that are not in the books and not part of the game overall.Nothing you posted below actually supports your position.  Why do you post it and talk about it as if its relevant?No, none of those changed, because none of those were defined.  And even if they did change, I didn't change the background, I propose that what happened was change that hapenned in the intervening ten years.  That's the part that you keep continuously ignoring, which causes your argument to not actually, y'know, be a coherent one.And seriously; why do you keep mentioning her intelligence score?  Are you asserting that this PC background actually statted out the NPCs that were in it?  Your failure to bring relevance to this discussion is astounding.Her husband died in the last ten years.  And you think that her becoming obsessed with something because of that is unreasonable?  Words fail me.  Really?And no, I am absolutely telling you that it does not "destroy" level guidelines per area.  Unless, of course, it's also your conclusion that it's unreasonable for liches to actually exist in D&D.  Nobody said she just went to the local "lich store" and bought what she needed.  Sure, it was hard work.  Are you saying that characters are incapable of doing difficult things in your settings?  Or that only PCs can?  Your objections are becoming more and more unreasonable and absurd the longer this discussion continues.I get it; you really don't like this particular plot twist.  Just stick with that and quite trying to "prove" that it couldn't or shouldn't have been done.  That's a losing proposition.  At this point, you've dragged the idea into inanity.Sorry, but that's absolutely absurd.  I don't even know how to respond to that other than to point out ---for I think the third or fourth time now--- that if PCs can amass that kind of wealth, experience, and resouces in much less time than ten years, your insistance that an NPC "can't possibly" do so is just freakin' bizarre.  As is your insistence that this is change is implausible.  You simply aren't even attempting to make a case that it is so, you're just ignoring the rules of the game as written and stubbornly repeating yourself when confronted with evidence that there's actually no great logical gap that needs to be crossed here.  In fact, your arguments cause major logical gaps, because if taken at face value, you are saying that you don't think that its reasonable for high level characters or liches to even exist at all.Ridiculous.</blockquote>

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