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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6632873" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Heard the argument about short duration before.&nbsp; People have gone so far as to argue that an &quot;instantaneous&quot; flash of fire can't ignite flamable materials, despite what the description says.To answer the question, you need the Hardness of copper, and the HP per inch.&nbsp; Apply damage normally, and any &quot;destroyed&quot; by the fireball was melted.Same for Ice, though Ice gets no Hardness against Fire.So there's no sudden, disproportionate melting of soft metals just because the spell name is Fireball.&nbsp; The DMG/SRD section on &quot;Breaking and Entering&quot;, which includes the general Hardness tables, doesn't list copper, gold, or any of the &quot;soft&quot; metals, unfortunately.&nbsp; Personally, I'd rate copper close to Alchemical Silver, but harder than wood.&nbsp; Maybe a 7 Hardness and 10 per inch.&nbsp; Silver I'd rate a bit softer, and Gold softer still.&nbsp; Softer than wood.Yeah yeah, I know Balsa isn't the same category as Maple, but I think the table is referring to structural quality wood like well seasoned fir or perhaps oak.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6632873, member: 6669384"] Heard the argument about short duration before. People have gone so far as to argue that an "instantaneous" flash of fire can't ignite flamable materials, despite what the description says. To answer the question, you need the Hardness of copper, and the HP per inch. Apply damage normally, and any "destroyed" by the fireball was melted. Same for Ice, though Ice gets no Hardness against Fire. So there's no sudden, disproportionate melting of soft metals just because the spell name is [I]Fireball[/I]. The DMG/SRD section on "Breaking and Entering", which includes the general Hardness tables, doesn't list copper, gold, or any of the "soft" metals, unfortunately. Personally, I'd rate copper close to Alchemical Silver, but harder than wood. Maybe a 7 Hardness and 10 per inch. Silver I'd rate a bit softer, and Gold softer still. Softer than wood. Yeah yeah, I know Balsa isn't the same category as Maple, but I think the table is referring to structural quality wood like well seasoned fir or perhaps oak. [/QUOTE]

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