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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8994834" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>Okay... which is it that you think I'm conflating? Prep and consistency as you first said, or prep and collaboration? </p><p></p><p>Let me know which one it is, and I'll explain why you're wrong. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I understood. Whose D&D game is the Bugs Bunny cartoon and whose is Yellowstone in your comparison? Because I imagine two D&D games would very likely be more similar than Bugs Bunny and Yellowstone, which makes the comparison less useful.</p><p></p><p>We're not talking about the content of the fiction, but the means of creation. The content may be exactly the same. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What? You could have brought the dessert. That's control. </p><p></p><p>Can you rewind time and make it so that you had it all along? Of course not. But again, that's not what's happening in the fiction. In the fiction, the character always had the dessert. This is the distinction between player and character that I was talking about. </p><p></p><p>Now, that may not be something you like as a player, and you may feel it makes things less believable or whatever. But I may feel it's less believable that my character would forget the dessert. It's a matter of preference.</p><p></p><p>Neither is objectively more real. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how I should read this. Did you mean there's no correlation between prep & improv, and DM control? Or prep, improv, and DM control? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to twist what you say. I'm trying to understand what you say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 8994834, member: 6785785"] Okay... which is it that you think I'm conflating? Prep and consistency as you first said, or prep and collaboration? Let me know which one it is, and I'll explain why you're wrong. Yeah, I understood. Whose D&D game is the Bugs Bunny cartoon and whose is Yellowstone in your comparison? Because I imagine two D&D games would very likely be more similar than Bugs Bunny and Yellowstone, which makes the comparison less useful. We're not talking about the content of the fiction, but the means of creation. The content may be exactly the same. What? You could have brought the dessert. That's control. Can you rewind time and make it so that you had it all along? Of course not. But again, that's not what's happening in the fiction. In the fiction, the character always had the dessert. This is the distinction between player and character that I was talking about. Now, that may not be something you like as a player, and you may feel it makes things less believable or whatever. But I may feel it's less believable that my character would forget the dessert. It's a matter of preference. Neither is objectively more real. I'm not sure how I should read this. Did you mean there's no correlation between prep & improv, and DM control? Or prep, improv, and DM control? I'm not trying to twist what you say. I'm trying to understand what you say. [/QUOTE]
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