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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8997196" data-attributes="member: 71699">Two readily identified positions on this question are formalist (if the rules are changed, then the game is not being played... a different game is) and non-formalist (what game is played is essentially a normative determination.)[USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER] seems to adopt a non-formalist position. 5e D&amp;D rules run to hundreds of pages. I don't think anyone plays every rule exactly correctly (or even knows every rule, in my experience.) It's extremely unlikely that any two game of 5e will be identical on the matter of rules. Is there a change where 5e is no longer played? I believe the answer to that is &quot;yes&quot; there will be a point where some abundance of rules are changed and the normal view would be that a new game exists.I can give some concrete examples. Chivalry and Sorcery is documented to have arisen out of an abundance of change to D&amp;D for the author's home campaign. I think most folk would agree that C&amp;S is a different game from D&amp;D of that era. 2nd edition D&amp;D is a version of D&amp;D, and although it is recognisably D&amp;D, it is recognisably not any other edition of D&amp;D. However, a passerby might just say that folk playing 2nd edition, C&amp;S, or 5th edition are playing D&amp;D. You can see that what counts as playing a given game is normative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8997196, member: 71699"] Two readily identified positions on this question are [B]formalist [/B](if the rules are changed, then the game is not being played... a different game is) and [B]non-formalist[/B] (what game is played is essentially a normative determination.) [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER] seems to adopt a non-formalist position. 5e D&D rules run to hundreds of pages. I don't think anyone plays every rule exactly correctly (or even knows every rule, in my experience.) It's extremely unlikely that any two game of 5e will be identical on the matter of rules. Is there a change where 5e is no longer played? I believe the answer to that is "yes" there will be a point where some abundance of rules are changed and the normal view would be that a new game exists. I can give some concrete examples. [I]Chivalry and Sorcery[/I] is documented to have arisen out of an abundance of change to D&D for the author's home campaign. I think most folk would agree that C&S is a different game from D&D of that era. 2nd edition D&D is a version of D&D, and although it is recognisably D&D, it is recognisably not any other edition of D&D. However, a passerby might just say that folk playing 2nd edition, C&S, or 5th edition are playing D&D. You can see that what counts as playing a given game is normative. [/QUOTE]

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