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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9002094" data-attributes="member: 82106"><a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/player-driven-campaigns-and-developing-strong-stories.696715/post-8999907" target="_blank">Player-driven campaigns and developing strong stories</a> and this is a MILD version of it! Like this is the blood tide at LOW EBB. Just read the whole thread, you can have plenty of amusement here!A quite high percentage of posters with a certain general agenda have made statements to this effect at various times. We talked through some, again fairly mild, examples in THIS VERY THREAD! Yes, we have made vast progress, people are no longer able to ignore the burgeoning number of narrativist and other non-classic forms of games anymore! Still, its a quite prevalent sentiment.I mean the strongest assertion of non-GM-central-authoritarian play. That is something like "RPGs work perfectly well when all the participants at the table share equally in authority over game play." As I just said above, this now being essentially an irrefutable fact, as 100s of games built on this paradigm are successfully sold and played every day at this point, we find that the denials don't stand up, and are now often tempered, or restated as 'preference'. Nothing wrong with that, but yes I believe there is still a strong underlying belief in the idea that only a game with an absolutist GM can work well is still 'rife'. Heck, you yourself espoused something very close to this in this very thread, proposing that 'Rule 0 always exists', and then another poster insisted that games without this (implicit or explicit) rule 0 were 'inflexible' and asserted a list of things that supposedly couldn't be achieved without rule 0, finally settling in the 'bailey' consisting of, at least, the assertion that it always exists, with its implication that everyone uses it in at least some covert/implicit way. I mean, these are arguments, I'm not criticizing people for making them, but its stunning to then have you assert that nothing like this exists.</blockquote>

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