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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9002777" data-attributes="member: 8461">Right, and you said that you have those as a PDF on your hard drive, so I'm asking you to please post them here, share them via a PM, email, etc.I bring this up because, insofar as I know, instances of &quot;Arnesonian Blackmoor&quot; (i.e. Blackmoor as Dave himself ran it during the early 70s) are vanishingly rare, typically being either after-the-fact reconstructions or thoroughly edited by someone else. The archetypal instance of this is <a href="https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17172/ODD-Supplement-II-Blackmoor-0e?affiliate_id=820" target="_blank">Supplement II: Blackmoor</a> (affiliate link); as Shannon Appelcline notes in his write-up: &quot;Decades later, Tim Kask would say that the book &quot;was about 60% my work, 30% Dave Arneson’s and the remainder came from Gary and Rob Kuntz&quot;.&quot;Likewise, First Fantasy Campaign (released by Judges Guild in 1977) is much closer to what Arneson was doing in those early years, but it's still something that he cobbled together from his notes after play had largely ceased (a lot of which was due to Dave's involvement, and subsequent departure from, TSR at the time). The same can be said for Arneson's two-part &quot;Garbage Pits of Despair&quot; adventure, published in Different Worlds #42 and #43 in 1986. Similarly, Jon Peterson's incredible research on the <a href="https://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-dalluhn-manuscript-and-contax.html" target="_blank">Dalluhn manuscript, Mornard fragments, Guidon D&amp;D first draft, and COMTAX</a> suggests that all have some degree of Gary's influence present, since by that point early designs of D&amp;D were starting to proliferate throughout the Lake Geneva/Twin Cities region.As such, a copy of the original notes that Dave sent to Gary constitute a glimpse into how Blackmoor was being played at the time by him and his group, without any &quot;contamination&quot; (for lack of a better term) from any other groups or individuals, which is unprecedented. If you have a copy of that, I urge you again to please make it available to the wider community...or at least just me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 9002777, member: 8461"] Right, and you said that you have those as a PDF on your hard drive, so I'm asking you to please post them here, share them via a PM, email, etc. I bring this up because, insofar as I know, instances of "Arnesonian Blackmoor" (i.e. Blackmoor as Dave himself ran it during the early 70s) are vanishingly rare, typically being either after-the-fact reconstructions or thoroughly edited by someone else. The archetypal instance of this is [URL='https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17172/ODD-Supplement-II-Blackmoor-0e?affiliate_id=820'][I]Supplement II: Blackmoor[/I][/URL] (affiliate link); as Shannon Appelcline notes in his write-up: "Decades later, Tim Kask would say that the book "was about 60% my work, 30% Dave Arneson’s and the remainder came from Gary and Rob Kuntz"." Likewise, [I]First Fantasy Campaign[/I] (released by Judges Guild in 1977) is much closer to what Arneson was doing in those early years, but it's still something that he cobbled together from his notes after play had largely ceased (a lot of which was due to Dave's involvement, and subsequent departure from, TSR at the time). The same can be said for Arneson's two-part "Garbage Pits of Despair" adventure, published in [I]Different Worlds[/I] #42 and #43 in 1986. Similarly, Jon Peterson's incredible research on the [URL='https://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-dalluhn-manuscript-and-contax.html']Dalluhn manuscript, Mornard fragments, Guidon D&D first draft, and COMTAX[/URL] suggests that all have some degree of Gary's influence present, since by that point early designs of D&D were starting to proliferate throughout the Lake Geneva/Twin Cities region. As such, a copy of the original notes that Dave sent to Gary constitute a glimpse into how Blackmoor was being played [I]at the time[/I] by him and his group, without any "contamination" (for lack of a better term) from any other groups or individuals, which is unprecedented. If you have a copy of that, I urge you again to please make it available to the wider community...or at least just me. [/QUOTE]

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