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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 9007125" data-attributes="member: 29398">What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and the players/PCs certanly have ways and means of making encounters be or become hella &quot;unfair&quot; to their foes.&nbsp; As I've no desire to take these ways and means away from the players/PCs, and I've even less desire to make the PCs &quot;special&quot; in the setting vis-a-vis the other inhabitants, then it naturally follows that - when warranted - NPCs get to use these tricks too.Sometimes you surprise the dragon, sometimes it surprises you.&nbsp; A situation where the PCs can kill a dragon in its sleep isn't exactly fair for the dragon, is it, even though it's great for the PCs; why should the reverse not also be able to occur now and then?I mean, look at the cover of the Dragon magazine (65 I think) currently being revisited over in General.&nbsp; It shows a dragon potentially about to catch the lead two PCs completely off guard, meaning one of those PCs will likely be dead before it knew what hit it.&nbsp; I have no problem with this.Frequently?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; Never?&nbsp; Also no.I'm not saying it's any different.&nbsp; I'm saying that in context not only is the sniper's presence valid, the unawareness of the PCs to said presence before the sniper acts is also valid. (and don't forget, the sniper still has to roll to hit...)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 9007125, member: 29398"] What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and the players/PCs certanly have ways and means of making encounters be or become hella "unfair" to their foes. As I've no desire to take these ways and means away from the players/PCs, and I've even less desire to make the PCs "special" in the setting vis-a-vis the other inhabitants, then it naturally follows that - when warranted - NPCs get to use these tricks too. Sometimes you surprise the dragon, sometimes it surprises you. A situation where the PCs can kill a dragon in its sleep isn't exactly fair for the dragon, is it, even though it's great for the PCs; why should the reverse not also be able to occur now and then? I mean, look at the cover of the Dragon magazine (65 I think) currently being revisited over in General. It shows a dragon potentially about to catch the lead two PCs completely off guard, meaning one of those PCs will likely be dead before it knew what hit it. I have no problem with this. Frequently? No. Never? Also no. I'm not saying it's any different. I'm saying that in context not only is the sniper's presence valid, the unawareness of the PCs to said presence before the sniper acts is also valid. (and don't forget, the sniper still has to roll to hit...) [/QUOTE]

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