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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9009952" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>The explicit example given previously was that there was no such evidence. Had the players inquired, yes, they would have been (potentially) able to find out--but there were zero such forward-facing clues given. Hence why I used it as an example.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The explicit intent of the example is that there is ZERO warning. Nothing. No preamble, no rumors, no warning, <em>nothing. At all</em>.</p><p></p><p>Because I was asked for examples of how things could be fair or unfair, and someone explicitly mentioned a red dragon <em>randomly</em> attacking the party. Not just <em>being around</em>, actually attacking out of the blue with no warning.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except, again, the specific point of the example was that the characters had eliminated <strong>ALL</strong> of the necromancer's skeletons, and the GM knew that, and then conjured up a reason why she would immediately have as many skeletons as she needed later. Because the explicit description given by other posters above was, as long as there's any narrative justification they could give for why someone <em>could</em> have forces just show up, they can, no matter what has happened to those forces nor how much the party has done--all but explicitly saying reinforcements as the plot demands. Because it's not possible for the party to be omniscient, therefore anything they don't explicitly know is totally fair game for the DM if they've invented a story (that they have not told the players) to explain it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because someone EXPLICITLY asked me (well, the thread) for examples of what "unfairness" would look like! I was literally giving someone <em>what they wanted examples of.</em> And all of them were directly inspired by things real people, in this very thread, talked about as things that actually happened to them or their players!</p><p></p><p>Here are the quotes, for your viewing pleasure:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven't pulled a single thing out of either of these posts. Those are full, unedited quotes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9009952, member: 6790260"] The explicit example given previously was that there was no such evidence. Had the players inquired, yes, they would have been (potentially) able to find out--but there were zero such forward-facing clues given. Hence why I used it as an example. The explicit intent of the example is that there is ZERO warning. Nothing. No preamble, no rumors, no warning, [I]nothing. At all[/I]. Because I was asked for examples of how things could be fair or unfair, and someone explicitly mentioned a red dragon [I]randomly[/I] attacking the party. Not just [I]being around[/I], actually attacking out of the blue with no warning. Except, again, the specific point of the example was that the characters had eliminated [B]ALL[/B] of the necromancer's skeletons, and the GM knew that, and then conjured up a reason why she would immediately have as many skeletons as she needed later. Because the explicit description given by other posters above was, as long as there's any narrative justification they could give for why someone [I]could[/I] have forces just show up, they can, no matter what has happened to those forces nor how much the party has done--all but explicitly saying reinforcements as the plot demands. Because it's not possible for the party to be omniscient, therefore anything they don't explicitly know is totally fair game for the DM if they've invented a story (that they have not told the players) to explain it. Because someone EXPLICITLY asked me (well, the thread) for examples of what "unfairness" would look like! I was literally giving someone [I]what they wanted examples of.[/I] And all of them were directly inspired by things real people, in this very thread, talked about as things that actually happened to them or their players! Here are the quotes, for your viewing pleasure: I haven't pulled a single thing out of either of these posts. Those are full, unedited quotes. [/QUOTE]
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