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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9647410" data-attributes="member: 18">I just don't think it's false, because we've seen what happens when people romanticize something creepy for decades. At first they're joking, and they maybe acknowledge that time was messed up. Then they start equivocating and picking out individual things which they think were better. Then the move on to actually asserting things were better. It's by no means remotely inevitable, but if you engage the kind of romanticization that refuses to acknowledge the horrors of previous eras, it's drastically more likely.Especially in the era of TikTok and tradwives and so on. All I'm suggesting is that anything that's going to do Victoriana stuff in whitewashy kind of way, which includes steampunk and Wellsian retrofutures, should have some kind of acknowledgement that, actually, thinks were pretty messed up (to put it mildly). And I'd personally really prefer it if they stuck to fantasy versions if they're going to whitewash.It's pretty goddamn wild. My grandparents would have slapped them for this sort of nonsense!</blockquote>