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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6912301" data-attributes="member: 12731">You want to take the discussion to a place where nobody can say what's right and what's wrong, a profoundly unhelpful destination - unless your aim were to shut down an argument that threatens to force you into admitting something isn't 100% perfect with your beloved game.But I am completely uninterested in going there. You are, however, right in that it doesn't matter what the actual statistical average is (in some hypothetical survey that somehow manages to include all gamers). Luckily so - because how profoundly unhelpful it would have been to have to rely on such data.What matters is that WotC (and of coure you too if you want) needs to view the average as +2. Yes - regardless of whether that's statistically true or not.It's specifically the uncritical view "I guess since 10 is called the average it's good for my Con score too" I am arguing against. It's the superficial notion that doesn't distinguish between Constitution on one side (as an ability every character is helped by) and the other five abilities on the other (as an ability at least some characters can dump).And before you start - no, I don't mind you having this uncricitical and superficial view, Aaron. I am (yet again) talking about whomever issued those pregens.</blockquote>