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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6912627" data-attributes="member: 6701872"><p>False.</p><p>Let's talk, briefly, about unhelpful destinations to try and take this conversation. Namely, let's address where you are trying to take this conversation with the above statement.</p><p></p><p>I have to assume you still haven't read this post of mine: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?364406-Monster-Manual-and-Players-Hand-Book-Power-Levels/page12&p=6905873&viewfull=1#post6905873" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?364406-Monster-Manual-and-Players-Hand-Book-Power-Levels/page12&p=6905873&viewfull=1#post6905873</a> </p><p>neither when I posted it in that thread in response to you, or the time just the other day that I first linked you back to it because you seemed not to have read it then either.</p><p></p><p>I have to assume that, you see, because the only other explanation for your continued attempts to undermine my position of disagreement with you by way of claiming I can see no flaws in D&D 5th edition is that you are being intentional in the mischaracterization.</p><p>No, WotC, nor I, or anyone else, does not need to view the average as being some thing you've decided it should be - especially if its not statistically true.</p><p></p><p>There is no purpose in doing that.</p><p></p><p>Here's something that may help your put this information in perspective: Not everyone playing D&D agrees that some characters can dump specific scores. As a direct result of that, not everyone playing D&D agrees that Constitution has some special case in which it can't be as low as would be acceptable for some other score to be.</p><p></p><p>Unless you can prove the pregens are not <em>good enough</em> to overcome challenges the game says should be appropriate for them - note that is significantly different from the pregens being not as good as a different build - then they have not this flaw you insist should have been noticed and removed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 6912627, member: 6701872"] False. Let's talk, briefly, about unhelpful destinations to try and take this conversation. Namely, let's address where you are trying to take this conversation with the above statement. I have to assume you still haven't read this post of mine: [URL]http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?364406-Monster-Manual-and-Players-Hand-Book-Power-Levels/page12&p=6905873&viewfull=1#post6905873[/URL] neither when I posted it in that thread in response to you, or the time just the other day that I first linked you back to it because you seemed not to have read it then either. I have to assume that, you see, because the only other explanation for your continued attempts to undermine my position of disagreement with you by way of claiming I can see no flaws in D&D 5th edition is that you are being intentional in the mischaracterization. No, WotC, nor I, or anyone else, does not need to view the average as being some thing you've decided it should be - especially if its not statistically true. There is no purpose in doing that. Here's something that may help your put this information in perspective: Not everyone playing D&D agrees that some characters can dump specific scores. As a direct result of that, not everyone playing D&D agrees that Constitution has some special case in which it can't be as low as would be acceptable for some other score to be. Unless you can prove the pregens are not [I]good enough[/I] to overcome challenges the game says should be appropriate for them - note that is significantly different from the pregens being not as good as a different build - then they have not this flaw you insist should have been noticed and removed. [/QUOTE]
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