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<blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6912635" data-attributes="member: 6701872">This highlights exactly what it is that causes the disagreement on Constitution, I believe.You've got this idea that the way you and your group play the game is the way that everyone else is playing the game, and that's not the case.Many of the rest of us wouldn't tell a rogue they aren't meant to be in melee much - because they are meant to be in melee much, just with a friend rather than alone. But that much is clear when reading how sneak attack works, so it isn't a hard concept to help a newbie grasp.Many of the rest of us also realize that, given the way numbers on either side of the &quot;equation&quot; can be different, there is no specific value scores of any kind have to be in order to have and survive &quot;challenging combat.&quot; So we don't make insistence that the PCs reach some arbitrary threshold in specific numbers - we use monsters that will be challenging relative to whatever numbers they do have.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AaronOfBarbaria, post: 6912635, member: 6701872"] This highlights exactly what it is that causes the disagreement on Constitution, I believe. You've got this idea that the way you and your group play the game is the way that everyone else is playing the game, and that's not the case. Many of the rest of us wouldn't tell a rogue they aren't meant to be in melee much - because they are meant to be in melee much, just with a friend rather than alone. But that much is clear when reading how sneak attack works, so it isn't a hard concept to help a newbie grasp. Many of the rest of us also realize that, given the way numbers on either side of the "equation" can be different, there is no specific value scores of any kind have to be in order to have and survive "challenging combat." So we don't make insistence that the PCs reach some arbitrary threshold in specific numbers - we use monsters that will be challenging relative to whatever numbers they do have. [/QUOTE]

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