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<blockquote data-quote="Sledge" data-source="post: 1538649" data-attributes="member: 9324"><p>Actually I am referring to the MMS in the context of the D&D economic system. The price is only slightly less than an Instant Fortress. By price comparison I find that 42000 is very very high. If I can get a magical portable version for around 25% more then I will.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So 24 weeks to build at 9300 gold equals 55 gold per day. That means that you either have a team of around 50 or something very odd going on. This surely is very obviously a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow so you're saying that the paint on the walls outside and the little sign are worth 12000 gold? That is pretty amazing. What are they painted with? Dragons blood with Basilisk pigments? Seriously that is 71 gold per day of building time just for the outside appearance. At 19000 for just the inside decorating there must be some very exotic materials inside. The question was not for an inn with furnishing lined in silk and stuffed with cockatrice feathers. It was not for one that sported gold goblets and plates. That is the price being quoted here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually for one the value between gold and silver is very easily explainable. I find the the 42k gp is what isn't explainable. D&D may be messed up, but this is throwing the system out the window. The average innkeeper that someone suggested built the inn himself simply could not do so. He also could not arrange a loan of 42000 gp on the promise of an inn that may survive 10 years, after which (presuming no one is paid that works at the inn) he could barely pay it back. The quoted 1-2% (which is a little off what I remember from my brief review of medieval and rennaissance university info) is still 4200-8400 gp at the very least. This leaves a minimum PROFIT of 14 gp per day. Given that maintaining the building and cooking food will generally take up all the time of the innkeeper and his employees, he will have to buy food and drink as well as bedding and stable supplies. This good inn (2gp a night plus 5 sp for a meal per the rules) would have 5 rooms occupied just to cover the loan. Maintenance and other supplies would also add to the requirements. Given that the innkeeper only personally takes home 1 gp a day and the rest of his staff gets even less your still talking about an inn that is filled top to bottom with people before it makes sense at that price of investment.</p><p>I understand that the book is trying to get the feel of a Medieval society, but that doesn't require that all common sense and math be ignored in order to make an inn expensive to any character under 15-20th level. Remember that characters don't even have 42000 in total equipment value until they reach 10th level. To simply throw magic in and drasticly raise the price of nonmagic stuff does not create a medieval feel society with magic. The idea is to make it more believable not less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sledge, post: 1538649, member: 9324"] Actually I am referring to the MMS in the context of the D&D economic system. The price is only slightly less than an Instant Fortress. By price comparison I find that 42000 is very very high. If I can get a magical portable version for around 25% more then I will. So 24 weeks to build at 9300 gold equals 55 gold per day. That means that you either have a team of around 50 or something very odd going on. This surely is very obviously a problem. Wow so you're saying that the paint on the walls outside and the little sign are worth 12000 gold? That is pretty amazing. What are they painted with? Dragons blood with Basilisk pigments? Seriously that is 71 gold per day of building time just for the outside appearance. At 19000 for just the inside decorating there must be some very exotic materials inside. The question was not for an inn with furnishing lined in silk and stuffed with cockatrice feathers. It was not for one that sported gold goblets and plates. That is the price being quoted here. Actually for one the value between gold and silver is very easily explainable. I find the the 42k gp is what isn't explainable. D&D may be messed up, but this is throwing the system out the window. The average innkeeper that someone suggested built the inn himself simply could not do so. He also could not arrange a loan of 42000 gp on the promise of an inn that may survive 10 years, after which (presuming no one is paid that works at the inn) he could barely pay it back. The quoted 1-2% (which is a little off what I remember from my brief review of medieval and rennaissance university info) is still 4200-8400 gp at the very least. This leaves a minimum PROFIT of 14 gp per day. Given that maintaining the building and cooking food will generally take up all the time of the innkeeper and his employees, he will have to buy food and drink as well as bedding and stable supplies. This good inn (2gp a night plus 5 sp for a meal per the rules) would have 5 rooms occupied just to cover the loan. Maintenance and other supplies would also add to the requirements. Given that the innkeeper only personally takes home 1 gp a day and the rest of his staff gets even less your still talking about an inn that is filled top to bottom with people before it makes sense at that price of investment. I understand that the book is trying to get the feel of a Medieval society, but that doesn't require that all common sense and math be ignored in order to make an inn expensive to any character under 15-20th level. Remember that characters don't even have 42000 in total equipment value until they reach 10th level. To simply throw magic in and drasticly raise the price of nonmagic stuff does not create a medieval feel society with magic. The idea is to make it more believable not less. [/QUOTE]
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