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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 1541246" data-attributes="member: 5724">I was assuming 1/2 went to pay off the investment and the other 1/2 went into all that your speaking of. If the innkeeper only takes roughly 30% of that 1/2, that's around double the average profession check.I have no arguement here. But again, accommodation is designed for PC interaction costs, not for NPC interaction costs, and not to be compared with medieval prices from particular locales.Here it's important to note that costs listed in D&D aren't designed to simulate a medieval economy. They are only designed for PC interaction.On the other hand, what role-playing purpose is served by doing so? The gist of my arguement is this. People don't role-play commoners. They role-play PCs. The fact that chickens are to cheap and bread is too expensive means absolutely nothing to the vast majority of D&D role-playing. The fact that the D&D economy isn't comparable to medieval, again doesn't mean anything.What do we need? We need numbers that relate to PCs. Costs that are designed to interact with PCs. Anything that isn't interacting with a PC is wasted space. From a publisher/design perspective hashing out anything that the PC's won't interact with is pointless and only serves a separate goal: world-building.Although I love world building and the medieval feel (look what I've written) I know that the point of the game is to kill things and take their stuff while getting more powerful to kill tougher things and get better stuff. There's lots of other ways to play, of course, and it's for those other types of players that this information is even minisculy important.But it's important to distinguish between world-building exercises (creating a working economy is a world-building exercise) and between role-playing. Having a PC own an inn is role-playing with a bit of a working economy thrown in. At the root of it, if the DM and the Player are both satisfied with whatever expenses/profits they create, that's all that's needed for the game, regardless of how irrational those numbers are when compared to real-life economics of a particular place and time. Anything more than that simple part is world building, again not role-playing. And that wealth is in relation to PCs and PCs expected power levels because that's what runs the game engine of kill monsters and take their stuff and get more powerful.If there is inconsistancy between a player's perspective and a GM's perspective about something such as inn cost or probable profit, an agreement should be easily met if they are both considerate, mature individuals willing to compromise about a subject that (lets be honest here) we all have only a passing familiarity with. If there's still conflict, rules may help reduce it, but the end conflict is the result of a clash that no rules will solve, because eventually someone's going to point out that chickens are too cheap and bread is too expensive based upon their personal knowledge of a particular time and place. Some people want chickens and bread to be priced "right," but others can support cases for a different "right price" based upon different times and location assumptions. Because at the heart of it, the arguement is one of "reality" and "how much reality should be in my role-playing game." That's personal preferance, not irrational game design. If the GM and the player agree (to quote Bob Barker) the Price is Right.joe b.</blockquote>

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