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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 9452754" data-attributes="member: 2525">We were speaking of their recent ad for a designer that paid up to $150K. I am comparing fairly. You don't get ethics credits for being smaller. If the job is worth X dollars, it's worth X dollars. That's the fair market rate for the job. Expecting someone to take less money because you can afford less money isn't ethical. If they cannot afford to do the business they're in, then they can't afford it. But don't put that burden on the worker to take less as a charitable thing for their employer. They're the SECOND LARGEST TTRPG COMPANY ON THE PLANET. Ten years ago they were the #1 company. Pay what the job market says that job is worth!Again, we're talking about Paizo who abused their employees so bad that's why they formed a union, by admission of the company!We're talking about an actual real life right now ad for a designer for WOTC. It's very clearly, by any standard, 2-3 times as much as Paizo is paying for the same position in their ad right now. It's fair to point it out when someone makes the claim that Paizo is such a better company than WOTC.</blockquote>