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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 402832" data-attributes="member: 326">Can't we all just get along...?Hi all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />...allow me to interject.Both sides of the argument make valid points, the whole question of the difference between giving a PC an ability and giving an NPC the same ability is certainly a sticky one.However, there are a few facts. - The Epic Feat; Fast Healing, bestows Fast Healing 3. No Feat can ever be worth more than an actual level. In fact a feat is only ever going to be worth a fraction of a level.- The Balor and the Pit Fiend are roughly comparable. Yet the Pit Fiend has Regeneration 5 (changed to Fast Healing in the Errata) yet this makes no significant impact on their CRs - according to WotC...or me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />- The Minotaur and the Troll are another example where Regeneration is shown to make little or no impact on CR. The difference between the two is that the Troll has superior strength and constitution (and therefore greater hit points) and regeneration 5. It is only +1 CR higher than the Minotaur. (Incidently I work the Minotaur out to be CR 4.5 and the Troll to be CR 6) All that said. Fast Healing is probably going to be very useful at low levels; moreso than at epic levels (The Hecatonchiere has Fast Healing 50 and Regeneration 40 but I don't think that is worth the 30+ rise in CR some of you advocate). However, many things could be more useful at low levels. Take a vorpal sword for instance. Who is more powerful; the 1st-level Fighter with the Fast Healing 10 or the 1st-level Fighter with the +5 Vorpal Sword? The correct answer is of course 'what the hell is the DM doing giving out Fast Healing and +5 Vorpal weapons at first level!' <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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