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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 404577" data-attributes="member: 326">Hiya CR mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Thats okay; it was an honest mistake mate. With so many different threads and posts even I get confused more often than not! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Well, as I see it; two wrongs don't make a right. Some of the Monster Manual Challenge Ratings are blatantly flawed (that much is fact); some of the Epic Monsters are incorrectly assessed (in my opinion) as well.The power of characters and monsters (rated in terms of their effective level; ECL) impacts less and less on Challenge Rating the higher you ascend. So a party of 40th-level characters can still challenge a 60th-level opponent. But to make that work within the Experience Points/Challenge Rating System you have to modify the CR at high levels.Therefore a 60th-level character is CR35 and the party average CR30.In my opinion the Phaethon is about ECL62 (at a quick glance). Therefore its also CR35.Challenge Rating has to be modified for the party as well. Other than that it works the same.It will be the same power curve between characters and monsters because I rate them all the same way.I am confident (if also biased) that it will be better than Deities & Demigods...although I am not so certain the illustrations will be as good!? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Thanks mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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