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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 408351" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi CRGreathouse mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The existing system simply doesn't work the higher you ascend in epic levels.- It doesn't work under the CR+8/-8 threat range. - It doesn't work when you multiply/divide the number of opponents.- It doesn't work consistent to effective character levels.  So epic monsters are their best guesses; and they are unhappy with CRs above 30.Not exactly brimming with confidence. Not to mention in detailing Immortals; CRs above 30 are going to be de rigeur. You need something that are going to give consistent results at ANY measure of power. I would say that most of them won't get you into trouble.  That much is obvious.Be careful with a few of them - especially the Templates!Their system doesn't work. Yet some of their results are close enough to mine so as to be compatible; if used as is.Thats okay mate, I know what you mean.  A challenge which the PCs should defeat using (approx.) 25% of their resources.  Again a challenge which the PCs should defeat using (approx.) 25% of their resources.Incidently the Character levels could be 44th-47th here with no noticeable impact on the CR.Exactly. I doubt the Phaethon would be defeated by 4 34th-level characters (50/50 chance as I see it) let alone defeated using a mere 25% of the parties resources.</blockquote>

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