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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 408740" data-attributes="member: 2358">Haven't we already gone over this?  You CAN'T keep adding gains as you get to higher levels.  Extrapolating the SAME number, a Level 115 character will have over 800,000,000 gp in wealth, and as I have already proven, that simply does NOT work no matter how you look at it.  Using those numbers, a single Level 115 character could splat most deities and just about anything you could throw at him.The gains after Level 40 must be arithmatic, or the system breaks down almost instantly.  Using the PROPER formula, a Level 66 character would only have a little over 22,000,000 wealth.  This is how you balance things.The reason it breaks down is because the levels aren't worth as much.  If you combine your wealth system with your ECL system, you break the whole thing all over again.  For example, the Level 160 character (CR 50) will have a wealth of 3,276,800,000.  A Level 191 character (also CR 50) will have a wealth of 6,654,316,805.  I'm sorry, but the Level 160 character would have NO CHANCE of winning that battle.  No way, no how.  (You can't just say "you have no way of getting that item", otherwise wealth becomes worthless.  The wealth is wealth, and by the rules, they can spend it as they like, as per the guidelines in the ELH.)  By my system, the wealths would be 53,404,840 and 63,687,757, respectively.  This balances things out MUCH better, not only by putting the wealths closer together to be reasonable, but also by making getting super-expensive items impossible, as it should be, and without using DM discretion or Rule 0!Like I said, if it ain't an arithmatic progression, it simply WON'T work.  Just use this to test it . . . You say a Great Wyrm Primatic Dragon is ECL 100, fine, work with that.  Could we agree that a single Level 100 character should have almost no chance against the thing?  If so, create two Level 100 characters, one using my wealth calculations, and one using yours.  I can GUARANTEE that the one using your proposed wealth tables would splat that Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon without a problem.  Using my wealth system, you'll find that the challenge level is as it should be.Basically, you MUST cut off actually gains after Level 40, otherwise it will eventually break down every time.</blockquote>

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