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How much effect on ECL should Fast Healing have?
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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 410237" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi Anubis mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>...you understand of course that much of your post stems from your misunderstanding of the facts...</p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I don't think their wealth tables are necessarily broken.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Thats not my system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. But thats not my system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No I'm advocating you get possession of the facts before shooting from the hip. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You are only confusing people by going off on these rants.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are you sure thats a wise move? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Not at all. In fact at no point did I mention such a thing. So essentially you are just putting words in my mouth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You seem to be willfully glossing over the underlying truth here. SOMEONE HAS TO CREATE THESE ITEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE!</p><p></p><p>In a world where no 14th-level+ spellcasters exist there will be no +5 weapons...or if there are they will be rare artifacts from a bygone era - it doesn't matter how rich you are they don't appear out of thin air!!! </p><p></p><p>Similarly there are viable limits to what epic items can and will be created. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Characters should still gain the wealth, but the power of items should level off at a certain point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is that before or after we equip them with items commensurate with their status!?</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I did. You just have the wrong end of the stick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It won't be my system but what the hell...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As we all know ECL 320+ beings are a 'dime a dozen'. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Of course.</p><p></p><p>Out of curiousity I wonder who built the ECL320's +806 weapon; or the ECL351's +948 weapon? The sort of people who go around expending 500 of their levels and over 4 millenia (with the efficient item feat) to make such an item; though then again; they should technically be at least 2424th-level anyway.</p><p></p><p>...but as we all know you can't step out of the castle without bumping into 2424th-level characters. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps if he hit him with his money belt.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'll take that under advisement.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>...because at a certain level such items randomly wink into existence is that it!?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>The totality of energy; time and wealth makes such an enterprise almost unthinkable. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why indeed.</p><p></p><p>"There comes a time when the jewels cease to sparkle – when the gold loses its lustre – when the throne-room becomes a prison."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Someone has to make sense of it - might as well be me.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>You have proffered such - if we allow any item to exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>...but I don't advocate limitless items - now do you get it!?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay so you are doing a personal treasure table - not a wealth table.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably because many people may not want to have to bother changing a load of challenge ratings.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Perhaps the spirit of the rules for Video Games; not Roleplaying Games though!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean to say you agree with me!?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to be honest I haven't decided on the best course of action for wealth yet; but if you are so strongly opposed perhaps I must be on the right track. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Seemingly I had an hour to waste; but I must say now my head hurts. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 410237, member: 326"] Hi Anubis mate! :) ...you understand of course that much of your post stems from your misunderstanding of the facts... I don't think their wealth tables are necessarily broken. No. Thats not my system. Exactly. But thats not my system. No I'm advocating you get possession of the facts before shooting from the hip. You are only confusing people by going off on these rants. Are you sure thats a wise move? :p Not at all. In fact at no point did I mention such a thing. So essentially you are just putting words in my mouth. You seem to be willfully glossing over the underlying truth here. SOMEONE HAS TO CREATE THESE ITEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE! In a world where no 14th-level+ spellcasters exist there will be no +5 weapons...or if there are they will be rare artifacts from a bygone era - it doesn't matter how rich you are they don't appear out of thin air!!! Similarly there are viable limits to what epic items can and will be created. Characters should still gain the wealth, but the power of items should level off at a certain point. Is that before or after we equip them with items commensurate with their status!? I did. You just have the wrong end of the stick. It won't be my system but what the hell... As we all know ECL 320+ beings are a 'dime a dozen'. Of course. Out of curiousity I wonder who built the ECL320's +806 weapon; or the ECL351's +948 weapon? The sort of people who go around expending 500 of their levels and over 4 millenia (with the efficient item feat) to make such an item; though then again; they should technically be at least 2424th-level anyway. ...but as we all know you can't step out of the castle without bumping into 2424th-level characters. :D Perhaps if he hit him with his money belt. I'll take that under advisement. ...because at a certain level such items randomly wink into existence is that it!? The totality of energy; time and wealth makes such an enterprise almost unthinkable. Why indeed. "There comes a time when the jewels cease to sparkle – when the gold loses its lustre – when the throne-room becomes a prison." Someone has to make sense of it - might as well be me. You have proffered such - if we allow any item to exist. ...but I don't advocate limitless items - now do you get it!? Okay so you are doing a personal treasure table - not a wealth table. Probably because many people may not want to have to bother changing a load of challenge ratings. Perhaps the spirit of the rules for Video Games; not Roleplaying Games though! You mean to say you agree with me!? I have to be honest I haven't decided on the best course of action for wealth yet; but if you are so strongly opposed perhaps I must be on the right track. ;) :D Seemingly I had an hour to waste; but I must say now my head hurts. :( [/QUOTE]
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