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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 2265075" data-attributes="member: 30001">AFAIK two big taxes that we are used to in the modern world that are missing in the medieval are the sales tax and the payroll tax.  The wagon full of goods is taxed as it comes through the town gates, and not based on each item actually sold. Both types of taxes probably would require a level of record-keeping not known to medieval folks.  Things like payroll tax are made up in other areas, forced labor for example.  So instead of taxing a serf on what he's earned somewhere else, the lord simply requires that the serf work from him a few days out of the month.  Neither does Gizmo the DM in most cases <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />   The rulers in your campaign must love the PCs.  The right to build fortifications and private armies was very heavily regulated during historical periods.  The last thing a king wants to do is have to lay siege to some super-fortress that an ambitious adventurer has created in an outlying province.  And the army he would bring to the siege would be further reduced in size by the loss of the very taxes that the ruler was using to subsidize the outlaw adventurer's fortress.  Well - as I said - your rulers are braver than mine.  Mine typically don't trust the PCs once they're out of bowshot.  I agree that it is sensible not to get in too deep.  What I'm looking for with economics in general is a result that makes sense to all parties.  A suit of platemail should be created in a reasonable amount of time for a reasonable amount of money.  The amount of goods sold in town should have a reasonable correspondance to the taxes collected by a lord.  PCs can be involved in this process at a variety of places - craft checks and collecting money from their property in the two cases I gave.  I would like a sensible system that ties this all together - so that a smith doesn't make a 500 gp profit from a suit of armor, or a knight of a small manor can't field a 1000 soldier army.</blockquote>

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