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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 6393176" data-attributes="member: 40810">And that's the quintessence of this thread. Which to me is not the spirit of D&D at all. It may have started as such, but it has outgrown it long ago. The spirit you describe is what I would attribute to systems like GURPS, but to me and countless others D&D has long since become it's own thing rather than just a toolbox. To a great many it is.To quote from an excellent editorial written by Erik Mona for Dungeon Magazin Issue 134:This is the mythology of the Dungeons & Dragons game, and the related fondess transcends player age, experience, or campaign setting-> I fully believe that 4e would be have much, much, much less rejected if they had just kept the mythology intact. For me that is was really drove scores of players away. Sure, there would have been grumbling over the new rules and sure some players would have left because of them. But a whole lot of players leaving 4e were driving away by the mutilation of the game table trancending, shared and beloved D&D mythology. And that's why issues should be run for the  shared D&D mythology that applies to Athas as much as to Oerth and  Toril. Only when you get too specific, aka slapping the Eberron or FR logo on top of things, you are limited mostly to the specific fans of that setting. If you're writting about the Abyss or Limbo you'e writing about D&D in generalTo the original topic of the threat: I want as much lore as they can squeeze in. Reading a MM should be a pleasure in initself beside getting technical game information. I love titbits that tie monsters together all throughout the book.  Reading how the ecology of monster B mentions something about monster T I have not yet read and pages later the ecology of monster T picks up on it. E.g. like in the 2e MM the green dragon entry mentioned that green dragons living in woods bordering hills, once they are grown enough, try to enslave local hill giant tribes. And later the hill giant entry mentioned how hill giant tribes living in hills bordering woods hunt young green dragons because they consider their meat a delicacy. Boom, suddenly the green dragon behavior mention early is seen in an entirely new light beyond mere powerlust</blockquote>

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