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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Laurefindel" data-source="post: 8179984" data-attributes="member: 67296">[USER=83242]@dave2008[/USER] has a point however; whether 5e suffers from hp bloat has little to do with bounded accuracy*. Hp bloat has been a thing for the last 20 years (since 2e AD&D really), the fact that you haven't experienced 3rd or 4th editions doesn't change that.*except in the lower range of creatures; orcs and goblins and kobolds don't have just 4 or 5 hp anymore. Upper level creatures now have less hp than their 3e counterparts however, so bounded accuracy does have an impact on hp in an attempt to "flatten en curve", but not in straight hp bloat.And as stated earlier, the "bag of hp" syndrome of 5e has less to do with the fact that monsters have a lot of hp, and more with the fact that they don't have much (in terms of abilities) outside their hp. A flaw I wished they addressed, but not one attributable to bounded accuracy.</blockquote>