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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8180977" data-attributes="member: 93670">Take the zombie 22 is more than 16 11 is more than 8. There is no room for dispute there with some other conclusion at that point and you seem to be agreeing.The words "Compared to 3e and 4e, mostly"  as used are in contradiction of the  math.  4th edition was such a different system that comprises are difficult between it and any other edition, but 3rd has a huge amount of similarity.  earlier in the thread you said that you barely remember and never played 3rd making the certainty of your "conclusion" about how it falls in comparison to 5e with hp inflation bit curious when the math is simply the reverse</blockquote>