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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Trepelano" data-source="post: 378561" data-attributes="member: 6473">Having discussed this topic before, I only want to comment on a few things that haven't been covered by others in this thread:1)commoners WERE required by law to have a weapon  - as they might be conscripted at any time.  2) the price list in the PHB doesn't jive with the 1 sp/day rule. A commoner would never be able to buy anything - because their entire income would be on food.Most people play D&D based on a consumer-based economy.  WHich means that there are stores and craftsmen who sell wares to the public.  The  PHB price list reflects this.THe wages listed in the DMG, however, seem to be historically derived from a fuedal soceity.  That's not a consumer-based economy.  Since few people had money or goods to barter, there were no consumers - therefor there were no shops.  The 1sp/day rule means that every single craftsman and store owner will simply go out of businessdue to lack of customers and the PCs could never buy anything because it isn't available.  Commoners are forced to make their own things.  Craftsmen cannot make a living selling their wares, they must become employees of rich land owners.While this is all historically accurate - it is a royal pain in the ass to play like this.  Its simplerr to retain the consumer-based economy model and increase wages to reflect that.Here is what I have done.  I mulitply the wages by 5.  This is the 'cost' of a hireling.  4/5 of this cost is logding, food, and clothing (livery or whatever).  The remaining 1/5 (the ammount listed in the DMG) is the "cash payment".  If the employer doesn't want to provide for all the eployee's basic needs - then he has to pay the employee the whole 5X cost.Also - the wages listed in the DMG are for hirelings who expect long-term and stable employement. If you just want to hire somebody for a week or a month - then first you have to find someone willing to take a "temp job" and he's going to cost about 10X the DMG price list - because he has to have extra to live on, when he goes back to being unemployeed.</blockquote>

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