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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nazhkandrias" data-source="post: 3431288" data-attributes="member: 50521">I still don't think that a Lightning Bolt makes noise in D&D, but if you think that it should at least make some noise, perhaps the sound that a Lightning Bolt makes should be somewhere in between - not as much as a melee battle, but a bit more than nothing. Maybe a Listen DC of -5? This could apply to a lot of Evocations, since a lot of spells could theoretically make SOME sort of noise, such as Cone Of Cold making the sound of shattering ice, or the sound of a crackling Fireball, but it isn't as much as a Greataxe shearing through the armor of a screaming Goblin.Regardless, if it's next to a 10-foot thick stone wall (and I think that the Listen DC for a 5-foot stone wall is +15, so a 10-foot thick stone wall would be at least +30, if not more), that should come out to a Listen DC of at least 25, which means that if these are average guards (1st level Warriors), then there really isn't much of a chance of them hearing. As for it "banking" off of a stone wall, if that's even possible, I don't think that would make any noise - if ANY noise is made at all (which I don't think there would be), then it would be from the new Kentucky Fried Guards that opened next door.</blockquote>