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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 6064966" data-attributes="member: 92305"><p>That would be Cimmerian technology--not Hyborian. But, maybe Hyborian, too. I'm simply making the point that the movies show Cimmerian tech, and Cimmerians are not Hyborians.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've read a ton of Conan, from Howard's stories to many of the 80+ pasthiche novels, to comics and graphic novles both new and old. So, I base that on a general accepted understanding of Cimmerian culture. In both movies, the Cimmerians are less "armored-up" than their foes (The Vanir and Zim's men in the newer movie and Doom's men in the '82 pic). They use leather armor and thick, warm furs. You don't see them in chain or anything more formidable. Now, this may be mearly because of scarcity, but some of the stories I've read, and source books for the RPG, describe the Cimmerians as preferring speed and dexterity over heavy armor that weights a person down.</p><p></p><p>Same thing with bows. The Cimmerians use them to hunt--not for war. Cowards draw death from a distance. The Cimmerian is in your face, breathing in your last breath when he kills you.</p><p></p><p>Conan, depending on what story you read, picks up appreciation for modern fighting techniques, the bow, and armor after he leaves Cimmeria. It's the influence that the outside world has on him.</p><p></p><p>Of course, since Howard did not write much about Cimmerian culture, and we don't know what Conan learned in his homeland vs. what he's picked up during his travels, there can always be debate on all of this. </p><p></p><p>In my game, I have different Cimmerian clans have different attitudes about these things. Some clans are more advanced and respect armor. Some respect the bow. Other don't and think less of those who use such things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Wide shots of Conan's village in that film show the waterwheel.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That pic is a little more advanced than the smithy I have in my PCs' village. But, I'm likely to have them range far and find a Cimmerian smithy, probably close to one of the Hyborian borders, where they see the advanced tech. </p><p></p><p>Hm...that's a neat idea. Might have to have that happen one day....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 6064966, member: 92305"] That would be Cimmerian technology--not Hyborian. But, maybe Hyborian, too. I'm simply making the point that the movies show Cimmerian tech, and Cimmerians are not Hyborians. I've read a ton of Conan, from Howard's stories to many of the 80+ pasthiche novels, to comics and graphic novles both new and old. So, I base that on a general accepted understanding of Cimmerian culture. In both movies, the Cimmerians are less "armored-up" than their foes (The Vanir and Zim's men in the newer movie and Doom's men in the '82 pic). They use leather armor and thick, warm furs. You don't see them in chain or anything more formidable. Now, this may be mearly because of scarcity, but some of the stories I've read, and source books for the RPG, describe the Cimmerians as preferring speed and dexterity over heavy armor that weights a person down. Same thing with bows. The Cimmerians use them to hunt--not for war. Cowards draw death from a distance. The Cimmerian is in your face, breathing in your last breath when he kills you. Conan, depending on what story you read, picks up appreciation for modern fighting techniques, the bow, and armor after he leaves Cimmeria. It's the influence that the outside world has on him. Of course, since Howard did not write much about Cimmerian culture, and we don't know what Conan learned in his homeland vs. what he's picked up during his travels, there can always be debate on all of this. In my game, I have different Cimmerian clans have different attitudes about these things. Some clans are more advanced and respect armor. Some respect the bow. Other don't and think less of those who use such things. Correct. Wide shots of Conan's village in that film show the waterwheel. That pic is a little more advanced than the smithy I have in my PCs' village. But, I'm likely to have them range far and find a Cimmerian smithy, probably close to one of the Hyborian borders, where they see the advanced tech. Hm...that's a neat idea. Might have to have that happen one day.... [/QUOTE]
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