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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6065050" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I was using Hyborian in the sense of "during the Hyborian Age when Conan is set" rather than culturally.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in the case of the movies the Cimmerian aren't ready when their village was raided. They're just going about everyday domestic business when they're attacked by surprise. In the first film most of them didn't even have time to grab a weapon, let alone put on any armour they might have had. In the second film they had a little more time - enough to erect a makeshift palisade (that was apparently useless) and grab their shields.</p><p></p><p>However, in the remake's precredits scene Conan's mother is clearly wearing some kind of scale armour - looks like <strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamellar_armour" target="_blank">lamellar</a></strong> to me - so obviously the Cimmerians have armour and some of them use it. Conn isn't wearing much if any armour in that battle though, but that could just be because Ron Perlman knows he's indestructable. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>The fact that they're not wearing helmets in that battle is I suspect more to do with a ridiculous "you have to see all the heroes' faces" movie trope than anything that's likely to occur in the real world. Your head is a magnet for killing/crippling blows in battle, they would have had some sort of helmet in any realistic setting.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, Cimmerians probably wouldn't have worn very heavy armour going by the little we know of them - they'd have had more trouble "swarming" over the walls of Venarium if they well in full coats of armour. Although for all we know they brought ladders. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>It's also likely most Cimmerians were simply too poor to wear suits of mail. A bit of boiled leather, a helmet and a shield might be all they could afford.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well they might just not have had very good bows. A weak bow with general-purpose arrows could have trouble going through padded armour, let alone a good coat of scale or chain. Certainly Conan didn't learn archery until he'd left his native hills.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ta, I'd forgotten about that waterwheel. Now you mention it I remember noticing it when I saw the movie back when it came out. It just feels much too <em><strong>industrial</strong></em> for the Cimmerians.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6065050, member: 57383"] I was using Hyborian in the sense of "during the Hyborian Age when Conan is set" rather than culturally. Well, in the case of the movies the Cimmerian aren't ready when their village was raided. They're just going about everyday domestic business when they're attacked by surprise. In the first film most of them didn't even have time to grab a weapon, let alone put on any armour they might have had. In the second film they had a little more time - enough to erect a makeshift palisade (that was apparently useless) and grab their shields. However, in the remake's precredits scene Conan's mother is clearly wearing some kind of scale armour - looks like [B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamellar_armour"]lamellar[/URL][/B] to me - so obviously the Cimmerians have armour and some of them use it. Conn isn't wearing much if any armour in that battle though, but that could just be because Ron Perlman knows he's indestructable. :p The fact that they're not wearing helmets in that battle is I suspect more to do with a ridiculous "you have to see all the heroes' faces" movie trope than anything that's likely to occur in the real world. Your head is a magnet for killing/crippling blows in battle, they would have had some sort of helmet in any realistic setting. Anyhow, Cimmerians probably wouldn't have worn very heavy armour going by the little we know of them - they'd have had more trouble "swarming" over the walls of Venarium if they well in full coats of armour. Although for all we know they brought ladders. ;) It's also likely most Cimmerians were simply too poor to wear suits of mail. A bit of boiled leather, a helmet and a shield might be all they could afford. Well they might just not have had very good bows. A weak bow with general-purpose arrows could have trouble going through padded armour, let alone a good coat of scale or chain. Certainly Conan didn't learn archery until he'd left his native hills. Ta, I'd forgotten about that waterwheel. Now you mention it I remember noticing it when I saw the movie back when it came out. It just feels much too [I][B]industrial[/B][/I] for the Cimmerians. [/QUOTE]
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