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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 2136817" data-attributes="member: 172">That is an element of resemblance, though it is not one that did not have prior examples. A D&D riff-off called Arcanum (precursor to Talislanta) used unified modifiers based on a 3-18 scale, much like D&D 3e, before Ars.Tweet himself said that the design team for 3e already had shaped a system much like his before he was added to the team: "When I joined the 3rd Edition team, the other guys were already working with a system with many of the same basic assumptions. It's nice to watch things circle back on themselves."That's rather not the point. I refer more to how skill ranks are produced. It's sort of hard to ignore:1) Alternity skill ranks limited to level +3 -> D&D 3e.2) Alternity skill ranks come in "class" and "cross class" costs, like D&D.More generally, I would make the point that it is easy to see influences of a variety of games, but I beleive that if you look at D&D and see the fingerprints of only one game, chances are that it is because you are familiar with that one game and are ignoring many other obvious influences. There are a great many attibutes of D&D that evolved as conventions in a wide variety of other RPGs.</blockquote>