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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nisarg" data-source="post: 2143755" data-attributes="member: 19893">Well, specifically I don't have an attitude "against" non-D20 games, I have an position toward games that don't do anything D20 can't do. So the non-d20 games I tend to favour are specifically the games that fall under MY derfinition of rules-lite, like Over the Edge, Amber, etc.That was not how I was using "lite": I was using it the sense of a streamlined version of a similar base mechanic. You can't say that D20 Modern is D&D-LIte, but you CAN say that Blue Rose is D20-lite. That's what I meant when I said that HARP and MERP are RM-lite.I believe I have seen that from you repeatedly, even though you never overtly stated it, you often implied it. You pointed out the mechanics are similar because of HARP being based on RM, followed by your theory about RM being the inspiration for D20, usually followed by a diatribe of how HARP does every thing that D&D does but a thousand times better.Really? I sidetracked a thread called "how much Rolemaster in D&D?" by answering that very title question? How amazing. I must have superpowers or something, being able to "sidetrack" entire threads in a single bound by posting a reply to the central issue of the thread.I sidetracked nothing, you just didn't like my answer; which is to say "How much? None or virtually none".  The fact this answer is unpalatable to you and your interests doesn't make it any less on-topic, or any less true.Now, if the person who started this thread just wanted the topic to be "RM is teh roxxors, D&D ripped off RM!!" then that should have been his title.You could pick any RPG in existence short of something like Amber, and find something in D&D that "resembles" that RPG. So that's a pretty damn flimsy statement to make. If that's the big victory for RM, I have to say that's pretty sad.Nisarg</blockquote>

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