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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5985682" data-attributes="member: 87792">My actual answer would be to try to de-escalate and find out what the actual problem was.&nbsp; Because it has nothing to do with garbage cans that have never existed.&nbsp; The direct answer would be about the one I indicated and would, as you say, just add to the problems.&nbsp;And the actual problem at the gaming table is that the rules are screwed up badly and we haven't taken any steps to fix them.&nbsp; This is an illustration that the rules are not fit for purpose although we might be able to make them be with judicious written and unwritten additions.&nbsp;&nbsp;You can argue that they are no longer playing a RAW game ... if you ignore the actual rules as they are actually written.&nbsp; And the guidance on DMing that says that you should sometimes blow the encounter budget (something that was in 3.0, 3.5, and 4e - but that WotC more or less ignored in published modules since the backlash against the Roper in The Forge of Fury).&nbsp; In short to argue that you aren't playing a RAW or a RAI game you'd have to use a different set of rules to any edition of D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5985682, member: 87792"] My actual answer would be to try to de-escalate and find out what the actual problem was. Because it has nothing to do with garbage cans that have never existed. The direct answer would be about the one I indicated and would, as you say, just add to the problems. And the actual problem at the gaming table is that the rules are screwed up badly and we haven't taken any steps to fix them. This is an illustration that the rules are not fit for purpose although we might be able to make them be with judicious written and unwritten additions. You can argue that they are no longer playing a RAW game ... if you ignore the actual rules as they are actually written. And the guidance on DMing that says that you [I]should[/I] sometimes blow the encounter budget (something that was in 3.0, 3.5, and 4e - but that WotC more or less ignored in published modules since the backlash against the Roper in The Forge of Fury). In short to argue that you aren't playing a RAW or a RAI game you'd have to use a different set of rules to any edition of D&D. [/QUOTE]

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