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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5985866" data-attributes="member: 87792">Because a wizard should (a) be smart and under classic rules (b) be capable of learning most of the spells in the game.&nbsp; If a wizard isn't in character trying to optimise his spell book he ain't trying.&nbsp; And if he's doing it badly then he ain't smart.&nbsp; It's the Gygaxo-Vancian* spellcasting that's the problem here (as in so many other places).&nbsp;The closest to a wizard I can get is a bard (or possibly a beguiler).&nbsp; One of my favourite wizardly archetypes - the illusionist/enchanter.&nbsp;Or I can play something with a less controllable magic system like 4e, or WFRP 2e or 3e - or even Exalted.&nbsp;&nbsp;Which you seem to think is an answer.&nbsp;&nbsp;Um... the 15 MAD is being addressed by guidelines tied to Gygaxo-Vancian casting saying you should throw a certain number of ninjas at the party per day.&nbsp; Worst of all worlds.&nbsp;* Jack Vance's archmages could learn, after extreme effort, maybe half a dozen spells, and needed real effort and study to replace them.&nbsp; And tended to cast one or two a story.&nbsp; Gygaxo-Vancian wizards get more spells per day than most of Jack Vance's wizards do per story.&nbsp; Instead they are more based on battlefield artillery.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5985866, member: 87792"] Because a wizard should (a) be smart and [I]under classic rules[/I] (b) be capable of learning most of the spells in the game. If a wizard isn't in character trying to optimise his spell book he ain't trying. And if he's doing it badly then he ain't smart. It's the Gygaxo-Vancian* spellcasting that's the problem here (as in so many other places). The closest to a wizard I can get is a bard (or possibly a beguiler). One of my favourite wizardly archetypes - the illusionist/enchanter. Or I can play something with a less controllable magic system like 4e, or WFRP 2e or 3e - or even Exalted. Which you seem to think is an answer. Um... the 15 MAD is being addressed by guidelines tied to Gygaxo-Vancian casting saying you should throw a certain number of ninjas at the party per day. Worst of all worlds. * Jack Vance's archmages could learn, after extreme effort, maybe half a dozen spells, and needed real effort and study to replace them. And tended to cast one or two a story. Gygaxo-Vancian wizards get more spells per day than most of Jack Vance's wizards do per story. Instead they are more based on battlefield artillery. [/QUOTE]

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