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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 5989267" data-attributes="member: 6698278">I missed or forgot you'd made your comment in the context of the story hour.  I agree we are fascinated by magic and the magical.  Gandalf is by far the most interesting character for me in LOTR and thats in a world where magic is perhaps not as dominant as in D&D.I'm sure Pathfinder 2e is coming.  I expect it will appear a few years after 5e.  I doubt Monte will do it.  He can make more money as a lone gun.I like longer runs too.  I'd like 10 year runs anyway.  I'd also like a game that was more additive than rewrite.  I don't mind streamlining and/or tweaks for improved gameplay but I don't want the whole game fundamentally changed.I like us getting philosophical.  It's a lot more interesting than us shooting at each other with the snark guns.    The issue I have with saying it's personal preference is this.  A lot of people when they read about dissociative mechanics suddenly see why they have the issue.  Until then they just felt like the game didn't resonate with them.  When they read those words it's like a lightbulb flashing on.  Yes thats it!  Someone finally put their finger on it.  After reading about it they suddenly start seeing various parts of games in different ways.   I don't think that this collective understanding is unique to individuals.  So there is something that triggers this response in various people the world over who've never met each other.  I raised the issue like I said entirely independently before realizing that others had came before me.  When I read their stuff I said "They get what I'm saying".  I really believe if you put us all in separate rooms and gave us tests we'd give the same answers.  A,B,C are dissociative and X,Y,Z are not.   So there is some internal mental process where we identify a dissociative mechanic.  No one that I know of who has issues with the mechanic think that hit points are dissociative.  It is only those who don't recognize the specifics of dissociative mechanics that try to argue that they are equivalent to martial dailies.  Now do I think it may be the way we are wired both nurture and nature?  Yes.  In some cases thats it.  In others I think it is a person's approach to the game in general but I'm not putting that on everyone.  Here is how a lot of us feel.  It's like watching a black and white movie that has one object in color.  We keep pointing out that the one color thing is distracting.  A color blind person keeps saying it's all black and white.  That the thing I'm saying is a particular color is in fact the same color as this thing over here that I in fact see as black.  So if you can imagine this happening now you know my frustration.I would hope we could get to the point where people could just say - hey I don't have a problem with dissociative mechanics.  I realize you do and where possible if it makes not a bit of difference lets go without them.  Where it does lets modularize.  But when people keep denying their existence as if by denial all those thousands of people who do think they exist will suddenly just close their eyes and agree.  They aren't going to do that.  It bothers them so it matters TO THEM.  (for emphasis I don't mean to yell here).</blockquote>

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