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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6011510" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Good post.</p><p></p><p>But, in the absence of comicbook mandated spotlight time, how would one achieve this in an RPG? Here is <a href="http://www.indie-rpgs.com/articles/21/" target="_blank">one answer</a>:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">"Balance" might be relevant as a measure of character screen time, or perhaps weight of screen time rather than absolute length. This is not solely the effectiveness-issue which confuses everyone. Comics fans will recognize that Hawkeye is just as significant as Thor, as a member of the Avengers, or even more so. In game terms, this is a Character Components issue: Hawkeye would have a high Metagame component whereas Thor would have a higher Effectiveness component.</p><p></p><p>That is, Thor's character sheet has big numbers; Hawkeye's character sheet has lot's of fate points or similar metagame resources.</p><p></p><p>Well 4e is a version of this. Fighter encounter and daily powers have an obvious metagame element in many cases. Second wind is typically more useful to fighters than wizards. Etc.</p><p></p><p>But, as chaochou notes, there seems to be a reasonable degree of hostility to this approach among at least some D&D players.</p><p></p><p>It's a feature of Burning Wheel, too. I think it's a pretty common mechanic these days.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6011510, member: 42582"] Good post. But, in the absence of comicbook mandated spotlight time, how would one achieve this in an RPG? Here is [url=http://www.indie-rpgs.com/articles/21/]one answer[/url]: [indent]"Balance" might be relevant as a measure of character screen time, or perhaps weight of screen time rather than absolute length. This is not solely the effectiveness-issue which confuses everyone. Comics fans will recognize that Hawkeye is just as significant as Thor, as a member of the Avengers, or even more so. In game terms, this is a Character Components issue: Hawkeye would have a high Metagame component whereas Thor would have a higher Effectiveness component.[/indent] That is, Thor's character sheet has big numbers; Hawkeye's character sheet has lot's of fate points or similar metagame resources. Well 4e is a version of this. Fighter encounter and daily powers have an obvious metagame element in many cases. Second wind is typically more useful to fighters than wizards. Etc. But, as chaochou notes, there seems to be a reasonable degree of hostility to this approach among at least some D&D players. It's a feature of Burning Wheel, too. I think it's a pretty common mechanic these days. [/QUOTE]
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