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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6015257" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Ah yes. The word "Any". Let me repeat the two text boxes.</p><p>The general:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Immunity to Magic (<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#extraordinaryAbilities" target="_blank">Ex</a>)</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> Golems have immunity to most magical and <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities" target="_blank">supernatural</a> effects, except when otherwise noted. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>And the specific one for each golem:<p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Immunity to Magic (<a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#extraordinaryAbilities" target="_blank">Ex</a>)</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> A [type] golem is immune to any spell or <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities" target="_blank">spell-like ability</a> that allows <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellResistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a>. In addition, certain spells and effects function differently against the creature, as noted below. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p> The word "any" simply isn't in the first texbox. The one that uses the word "most". So we know by elimination you must be talking about the second. And you can't be talking about 3.0 Golems - their description doesn't have the word 'any' in it. To repeat the only sentence containing the word 'any' between the various descriptions of the Golem's magic immunity:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">A [type] golem is immune to any spell or <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities" target="_blank">spell-like ability</a> that allows <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellResistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a>.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>I suppose you could stop reading after the word "ability" and assume that that means they are immune to all spells, even those that don't allow spell resistance. But that would be obviously incorrect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A nice way of describing the official FAQ.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And what mistake was that? Reading the rules as written, and rules as intended, as confirmed by the official FAQ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6015257, member: 87792"] Ah yes. The word "Any". Let me repeat the two text boxes. The general: [INDENT][B]Immunity to Magic ([URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#extraordinaryAbilities"]Ex[/URL])[/B] Golems have immunity to most magical and [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities"]supernatural[/URL] effects, except when otherwise noted. [/INDENT]And the specific one for each golem:[INDENT][B]Immunity to Magic ([URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#extraordinaryAbilities"]Ex[/URL])[/B] A [type] golem is immune to any spell or [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities"]spell-like ability[/URL] that allows [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellResistance"]spell resistance[/URL]. In addition, certain spells and effects function differently against the creature, as noted below. [/INDENT] The word "any" simply isn't in the first texbox. The one that uses the word "most". So we know by elimination you must be talking about the second. And you can't be talking about 3.0 Golems - their description doesn't have the word 'any' in it. To repeat the only sentence containing the word 'any' between the various descriptions of the Golem's magic immunity: [INDENT]A [type] golem is immune to any spell or [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities"]spell-like ability[/URL] that allows [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellResistance"]spell resistance[/URL]. [/INDENT]I suppose you could stop reading after the word "ability" and assume that that means they are immune to all spells, even those that don't allow spell resistance. But that would be obviously incorrect. A nice way of describing the official FAQ. And what mistake was that? Reading the rules as written, and rules as intended, as confirmed by the official FAQ? [/QUOTE]
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