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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4595669" data-attributes="member: 72317">I supposed an awakened golem could be somewhat more challenging in that you have an "excuse" to use more complicated tactics with it. Though unless you can do something about its crappy saves, I think maybe a token +1cr at most. 10 ranks in 2 skills (unless you somehow acquire class skills, such as via the martial study feats) don't really let you do anything meaningful it couldn't do before. Feats are interesting - this will likely be the sole determining factor as to how much tougher the iron golem will be. What are you having it take? Mundane feats such as INA/improved toughness/rapid recovery, or more exotic ones such as martial study/stance? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />That said, I have always wondered how awakened construct worked. It is negated by sr, so it shouldn't be possible to cast it on magic immune constructs such as golems (nor do I think that immunity can be voluntarily lowered the same way sr can). But I guess that is a minor technicality in the face of DM fiat (still no less annoying when my wizard was trying to cast it).</blockquote>