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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 7043472" data-attributes="member: 6701872">See this is evidence of the unbridgeable gap I was talking about. You can't even look at my view of the analogy and see the same thing I am seeing when I look at it, because what class the "the character is descended from dragons" sub-class is attached to has no effect at all in determining whether that sub-class is enough to count as "has dragon-blooded characters" or a full-class dedicated to the idea is needed before such a statement is true.I have never once said that I have reason to oppose the inclusion of the warlord.In fact, the only comment I've made regarding warlord inclusion is more along the lines of "Yes, it's fine to include. That's why they've done it in a few different ways so far."You are misconstruing my questioning of why "is official" was being prioritized as highly or higher than "does what I want it to" as something it wasn't if you think I've been saying something else.Again, I was never confused. I had a curiosity - those two things are different, and I'd appreciate you not conflating them any further.Zapp, I've not represented any position inaccurately. I've represented your position as being unsatisfied with the 5th edition magic item rules found in the DMG to such degree that you insist they don't even count, and you've said the same in your claim that I was misrepresenting something.What seems to have tripped you up is that my opinion is different from your own; I feel that the 3E and 5E DMG both provide the same degree of usability to the DM (just one with less math and less character build requirements), and both approach magic items from a "what is it actually worth in terms of the typical campaign?", or as you have phrased it "utility based", point of view.It's fine that our opinions differ, and I've never once faulted you for having your opinion. My only argument against your statements on the topic is that you have claimed the rules that are in the DMG don't count as an attempt to provide rules to turn looted gold into useful items (and I've also made the inquiry as to why you think WotC taking another shot at it would hit the mark for you when what was likely their best attempt missed so widely for you, but that's not actually contesting your opinion in any way, just seeking to understand it better).</blockquote>

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