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How much would you pay for a Helm of Protection from Evil?
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<blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5465348" data-attributes="member: 78958"><p>Why not compare it to a Wand of Protection from Evil instead? That's also "slotless", and 1 minute is functionally equivalent to one fight, so it'll only be 4 charges a day! In fact, it's only 13.33 charges per levelup, of which there are 19. That means you'll need very close to 5 fully charged wands to see you through your whole adventuring career.</p><p></p><p>Assuming you get your first wand of Protection from Evil at first level, you'll pay only 3,750 gp for effectively constant Protection from Evil! And that's not even counting bossfights and story XP! Clearly, a slotted, continuous Protection From Evil item shouldn't cost more than 1,875 gp!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I.e., I believe your argument is bogus.</p><p></p><p>a) "slotless" means something different than you assume. The way you take it, potions, wands, scrolls, and weapons are also slotless. That makes no sense,</p><p>b) the horn takes a standard action to activate. It might be too late when you get to take that action,</p><p>c) if you can take an action at all, that is...,</p><p>d) 2 hours (or any limited period of time) is not equivalent to a full adventuring day in my experience,</p><p>e) "magic circle versus self only"? You mean, there's no magic circle at all, instead there's a targeted effect on only one person,</p><p>f) only 1/day seems rather risky to me.</p><p></p><p>Note that continuous items are <em>a world apart</em> from activated items. They carry no opportunity cost (the other cool stuff you could do with your valuable standard action instead), they're on even when you can't take an action (surprised, flat-footed, helpless...), they're not easily taken away by a Dispel Magic targeted at you (must target the item instead) and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Empirate, post: 5465348, member: 78958"] Why not compare it to a Wand of Protection from Evil instead? That's also "slotless", and 1 minute is functionally equivalent to one fight, so it'll only be 4 charges a day! In fact, it's only 13.33 charges per levelup, of which there are 19. That means you'll need very close to 5 fully charged wands to see you through your whole adventuring career. Assuming you get your first wand of Protection from Evil at first level, you'll pay only 3,750 gp for effectively constant Protection from Evil! And that's not even counting bossfights and story XP! Clearly, a slotted, continuous Protection From Evil item shouldn't cost more than 1,875 gp! I.e., I believe your argument is bogus. a) "slotless" means something different than you assume. The way you take it, potions, wands, scrolls, and weapons are also slotless. That makes no sense, b) the horn takes a standard action to activate. It might be too late when you get to take that action, c) if you can take an action at all, that is..., d) 2 hours (or any limited period of time) is not equivalent to a full adventuring day in my experience, e) "magic circle versus self only"? You mean, there's no magic circle at all, instead there's a targeted effect on only one person, f) only 1/day seems rather risky to me. Note that continuous items are [I]a world apart[/I] from activated items. They carry no opportunity cost (the other cool stuff you could do with your valuable standard action instead), they're on even when you can't take an action (surprised, flat-footed, helpless...), they're not easily taken away by a Dispel Magic targeted at you (must target the item instead) and so on. [/QUOTE]
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