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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 5593622" data-attributes="member: 8158"><p>The posts preceding mine conveyed the attitude that this episode was somehow more respectful of D&D than previous depictions of D&D in mainstream media. I disagreed. Your reply seems to do little but champion the right of Community to make people the buff of jokes, which in no way refutes my post.</p><p></p><p>Your supposed point is not only wildly incompatible with the rest of your post--you defend the right of this episode to ridicule gamers as a whole, then proceed to say that your point is that it wasn't ridiculing them--but it is also a canard. It could be applied to the KnightErrant's examples of the SNL skit and Airheads. Heck, you could apply it to Amos & Andy. "They're not making a group the butt of the joke, just the individual member(s) of that group being depicted".</p><p></p><p>There was one D&D gamer to portray in this episode, and that one was portrayed as a man-child loser. Many TV shows have had token characters that were representations of a minority group, and when that is the case, then it is reasonable to consider how that invidiual is characterizing that group to those who are not intimate with said group. This is why it is considered distasteful to depict a bumbling blind character, or a lazy Mexican character, or a greedy Jewish character.</p><p></p><p>As to the sentiment that "everyone deserves time being the butt of the joke", I do not know of any attempts to depict a D&D gamer that does not hold them up as the objects of parody and satire. Feel free to enlighten me, but otherwise your premise of "equal-opportunity" is a bust. Even within our community, the media we create does little to portray anything positive about gaming. Look at a movie like "The Gamers" and its sequel, which are cherished by many of us. All it seems to depict is the inherent "dorkness" of gaming: the selfishness, the pettyness, the combativeness, and how all of those traits work together to make it look like a bunch of clowns sitting around being jerks to each other. Same goes for other gamer media as well, like KotDT and Dork Tower. </p><p></p><p>How great would it be to see someone take the time to create some media about gaming that actually showed it at it best, not at its worst?</p><p></p><p>By the way, anyone know how I can circulate a memo that conflating the word "dark" with "dork" is officially played out?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felon, post: 5593622, member: 8158"] The posts preceding mine conveyed the attitude that this episode was somehow more respectful of D&D than previous depictions of D&D in mainstream media. I disagreed. Your reply seems to do little but champion the right of Community to make people the buff of jokes, which in no way refutes my post. Your supposed point is not only wildly incompatible with the rest of your post--you defend the right of this episode to ridicule gamers as a whole, then proceed to say that your point is that it wasn't ridiculing them--but it is also a canard. It could be applied to the KnightErrant's examples of the SNL skit and Airheads. Heck, you could apply it to Amos & Andy. "They're not making a group the butt of the joke, just the individual member(s) of that group being depicted". There was one D&D gamer to portray in this episode, and that one was portrayed as a man-child loser. Many TV shows have had token characters that were representations of a minority group, and when that is the case, then it is reasonable to consider how that invidiual is characterizing that group to those who are not intimate with said group. This is why it is considered distasteful to depict a bumbling blind character, or a lazy Mexican character, or a greedy Jewish character. As to the sentiment that "everyone deserves time being the butt of the joke", I do not know of any attempts to depict a D&D gamer that does not hold them up as the objects of parody and satire. Feel free to enlighten me, but otherwise your premise of "equal-opportunity" is a bust. Even within our community, the media we create does little to portray anything positive about gaming. Look at a movie like "The Gamers" and its sequel, which are cherished by many of us. All it seems to depict is the inherent "dorkness" of gaming: the selfishness, the pettyness, the combativeness, and how all of those traits work together to make it look like a bunch of clowns sitting around being jerks to each other. Same goes for other gamer media as well, like KotDT and Dork Tower. How great would it be to see someone take the time to create some media about gaming that actually showed it at it best, not at its worst? By the way, anyone know how I can circulate a memo that conflating the word "dark" with "dork" is officially played out? [/QUOTE]
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