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How often do you provoke an AoO on purpose?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3403221" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I marked the 20-50% of combats, based on the wording which seems to indicate provoking AoOs in order to accomplish something else rather than provoking AoOs in order to provoke AoOs. Here's why, based on character (from a lot of different campaigns, some of whom haven't seen play in over a year):</p><p></p><p>My high level cleric: doesn't usually provoke AoOs. In the past, he sometimes would in order to drawn an opponent's AoO early so that it couldn't be used to stop his spellcasting or grapple attempt. Generally, however, the only reason he draws AoOs is because his opponent has reach and there's not a good way to avoid doing so.</p><p></p><p>My 11th level fighter/paladin/cleric/etc mutt. She draws AoOs pretty regularly because she seems to fight a lot of things with reach. She has mobility and a decent armor class to start with so they're not as dangerous to her as they might otherwise be. Next level, she'll start provoking a whole lot more since she will pick up Elusive Target.</p><p></p><p>My 8th level cleric/church inquisitor stays out of melee so he doesn't count. However, despite having a good concentration score, he often finds that, when in combat, he's better off provoking an AoO that doesn't trigger improved grab or something similar than risking casting on the defensive.</p><p></p><p>My 9th level fighter/rogue has Elusive Target and very regularly provokes AoOs specifically for the purpose of provoking AoOs and either redirecting them with Elusive Target or getting the free trip attempt from Elusive Target.</p><p></p><p>My 4th level bastard sword and shield fighter rarely provokes AoOs except when reach makes it unavoidable.</p><p></p><p>My 3rd level heavy mace and shield fighter is more willing to provoke AoOs in order to bull rush opponents though he will do so without provoking AoOs if the situation makes it possible. With Improved Bull Rush, he has frequently found that generating 2-3 attacks of opportunity from allies (some of whom are more powerful than he is) is worth forgoing his own attack and risking an Attack of opportunity for movement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3403221, member: 3146"] I marked the 20-50% of combats, based on the wording which seems to indicate provoking AoOs in order to accomplish something else rather than provoking AoOs in order to provoke AoOs. Here's why, based on character (from a lot of different campaigns, some of whom haven't seen play in over a year): My high level cleric: doesn't usually provoke AoOs. In the past, he sometimes would in order to drawn an opponent's AoO early so that it couldn't be used to stop his spellcasting or grapple attempt. Generally, however, the only reason he draws AoOs is because his opponent has reach and there's not a good way to avoid doing so. My 11th level fighter/paladin/cleric/etc mutt. She draws AoOs pretty regularly because she seems to fight a lot of things with reach. She has mobility and a decent armor class to start with so they're not as dangerous to her as they might otherwise be. Next level, she'll start provoking a whole lot more since she will pick up Elusive Target. My 8th level cleric/church inquisitor stays out of melee so he doesn't count. However, despite having a good concentration score, he often finds that, when in combat, he's better off provoking an AoO that doesn't trigger improved grab or something similar than risking casting on the defensive. My 9th level fighter/rogue has Elusive Target and very regularly provokes AoOs specifically for the purpose of provoking AoOs and either redirecting them with Elusive Target or getting the free trip attempt from Elusive Target. My 4th level bastard sword and shield fighter rarely provokes AoOs except when reach makes it unavoidable. My 3rd level heavy mace and shield fighter is more willing to provoke AoOs in order to bull rush opponents though he will do so without provoking AoOs if the situation makes it possible. With Improved Bull Rush, he has frequently found that generating 2-3 attacks of opportunity from allies (some of whom are more powerful than he is) is worth forgoing his own attack and risking an Attack of opportunity for movement. [/QUOTE]
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