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<blockquote data-quote="Barendd Nobeard" data-source="post: 992692" data-attributes="member: 960">I have a friend who takes it all the time.&nbsp; His dwarf barbarian is now 9th level, and for feats has something like Toughness, Toughness, Toughness, and Dwarf's Toughness.&nbsp; He has one fighter level, so he has one other feat.&nbsp; But he's selecting Toughness 80% of the time.All of his characters who don't take Toughness die before 5th level.&nbsp; His two that have lived past that level always take a Toughness feat (or four).I just can't see wasting a feat slot for Toughness.&nbsp; Maybe for human fighter, who's going to have a boat load of feats.&nbsp; But at early levels, I want the Power Attack--Cleave chain to start, plus maybe Improved Init. and/or the start of the Dodge--Mobility--Spring Attack chain to start, so I'd save Toughness until later.&nbsp; And at later levels, it really does seem pointless for a fighter-type, so I'd probably end up taking something else.Heck, my 10th level dwarf has wasted two feats on Mounted Combat and Mounted Archery.&nbsp; Never even considered Toughness.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Barendd Nobeard, post: 992692, member: 960"] I have a friend who takes it all the time. His dwarf barbarian is now 9th level, and for feats has something like Toughness, Toughness, Toughness, and Dwarf's Toughness. He has one fighter level, so he has one other feat. But he's selecting Toughness 80% of the time. All of his characters who [b]don't[/b] take Toughness die before 5th level. His two that have lived past that level always take a Toughness feat (or four). I just can't see wasting a feat slot for Toughness. Maybe for human fighter, who's going to have a boat load of feats. But at early levels, I want the Power Attack--Cleave chain to start, plus maybe Improved Init. and/or the start of the Dodge--Mobility--Spring Attack chain to start, so I'd save Toughness until later. And at later levels, it really does seem pointless for a fighter-type, so I'd probably end up taking something else. Heck, my 10th level dwarf has wasted two feats on Mounted Combat and Mounted Archery. Never even considered Toughness. [/QUOTE]

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