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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zztong" data-source="post: 7821643" data-attributes="member: 6943414">For my own game, the only thing that makes a Paladin fall is the player deciding they want a fallen Paladin. (A fallen Paladin is an interesting character concept.) They're free to make their own oath and roleplay it strictly or loosely. The class, to me, is a bag of powers.For my friend's game, when he was very strict about Paladins, nobody ever played one. He made them such a pain in the ass that they were no fun. Once he backed off from that folks started to play them and I can't think of anyone who has broken an oath.</blockquote>