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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 7821793" data-attributes="member: 6775477">Not in 5E, but I have seen paladins fall in earlier editions (when they had to be LG, sometimes even Lawful-Stupid). It shouldn't be common, unless the campaign is based on temptation and moral dilemmas. I've had a campaign based on the Arthurian legends, and one of the players was a knight of the round table Paladin who at one point had to betray his lord to do what was right (catch-22, as either choice would have violated his oaths), but was eventually redeemed. Another Paladin PC lost his Paladin-hood for a short period of time after debating with a monk about the morality of his just "murdering" a red dragon in its lair/home (the monk was LE and trying to corrupt the paladin), whereupon he sought out a cleric for an attonment spell. I saw one player in 3E make a VERY bad paladin (he ignored RP as much as possible), and when given the opportunity to become a LN paladin prestige class, which would have fit the way he was playing the character, he decided to become Blackguard instead (because it had the best mechanics).Oh, and I'm assuming the "I don't allow Paladins" is the [USER=6799753]@lowkey13[/USER] vote</blockquote>